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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>, Andrew Hunter <ahh@google.com>,
	maged michael <maged.michael@gmail.com>,
	gromer <gromer@google.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@scylladb.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Dave Watson <davejwatson@fb.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Hans Boehm <hboehm@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] membarrier: provide register sync core cmd
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 18:00:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170831170035.GC26273@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1463521395.16945.1503889546934.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com>

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 03:05:46AM +0000, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> ----- On Aug 27, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Andy Lutomirski luto@amacapital.net wrote:
> 
> >> On Aug 27, 2017, at 1:50 PM, Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Add a new MEMBARRIER_CMD_REGISTER_SYNC_CORE command to the membarrier
> >> system call. It allows processes to register their intent to have their
> >> threads issue core serializing barriers in addition to memory barriers
> >> whenever a membarrier command is performed.
> >> 
> > 
> > Why is this stateful?  That is, why not just have a new membarrier command to
> > sync every thread's icache?
> 
> If we'd do it on every CPU icache, it would be as trivial as you say. The
> concern here is sending IPIs only to CPUs running threads that belong to the
> same process, so we don't disturb unrelated processes.
> 
> If we could just grab each CPU's runqueue lock, it would be fairly simple
> to do. But we want to avoid hitting each runqueue with exclusive atomic
> access associated with grabbing the lock. (cache-line bouncing)

I'm still trying to get my head around this for arm64, where we have the
following properties:

  * Return to userspace is context-synchronizing
  * We have a heavy barrier in switch_to

so it would seem to me that we could avoid taking RQ locks if the mm_cpumask
was kept up to date. The problematic case is where a CPU is not observed in
the mask (maybe the write is buffered), but it is running in userspace.
However, that can't occur with the barrier in switch_to.

So we only need to IPI those CPUs that were in userspace for this task
at the point when the syscall was made, and the mm_cpumask should reflect
that.

What am I missing?

Will

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-31 17:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-27 20:50 [PATCH v2] membarrier: provide register sync core cmd Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-08-27 22:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-28  3:05   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-08-30  5:01     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-30 14:46       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-30 17:33         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-08-31 17:00     ` Will Deacon [this message]
2017-08-30  4:01 ` Boqun Feng
2017-08-30 17:25   ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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