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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>
Cc: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Gabriel C <nix.or.die@gmail.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	"Gustavo F. Padovan" <gustavo@padovan.org>,
	Sukumar Ghorai <sukumar.ghorai@intel.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"bluez mailin list (linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org)" 
	<linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: btusb "firmware request while host is not available" at resume
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 12:29:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170911192955.GB23729@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170911171138.GA16216@wotan.suse.de>

On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 07:11:38PM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 06:46:47AM -0700, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > To confirm, reverting this fixes the problem I was seeing in 4.13.  I've
> > queued it up for the next 4.13-stable release as well.
> 
> Commit 81f95076281f ("firmware: add sanity check on shutdown/suspend") may
> seem kludgy but the reason for it was to cleanup the horrible forced and
> required UMH lock even when the UMH lock was *not* even needed, which was later
> removed via commit 06a45a93e7d34aa ("firmware: move umh try locks into the umh
> code").

So what does this mean now that it is reverted?

> Removing the old UMH lock even when the UMH lock was *not* needed was the right
> thing to do but commit 81f95076281f (("firmware: add sanity check on
> shutdown/suspend") was put in place as a safe guard as the lock was also
> placing an implicit sanity check on the API. It ensures the API with the cache
> was used as designed, otherwise you do run the risk of *not getting the
> firmware you may need* -- Marcel seems to acknowledge this possibility.
> 
> It may be possible for us to already have in place safeguards so that upon
> resume we are ensuring the path to the firmware *is* available, so IMHO we
> should remove this *iff* we can provide this guarantee.  Otherwise the check is
> valid. You see, although the UMH lock was bogus, it did implicitly ask the
> question: is it safe for *any* helper to run and make assumptions on the
> filesystem then?
> 
> In lieu of this question being answered the warning is valid given the design
> of the firmware API and the having the cache available as a measure to resolve
> this race.

I don't understand what you are trying to say here at all.

To be specific, what, if anything, is a problem with the current state
of Linus's tree (and the next 4.13-stable release)?

If something needs to be fixed, can you make a patch showing that?  Or
do we also need to revert anything else as well to get back to a "better
working" state?

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-11 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-10 19:26 btusb "firmware request while host is not available" at resume Linus Torvalds
2017-09-11  1:25 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-09-11  3:15   ` Gabriel C
2017-09-11  3:49     ` Gabriel C
2017-09-11  4:25       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-11  5:12         ` Marcel Holtmann
2017-09-11 13:46           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-09-11 17:11             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-09-11 19:29               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2017-09-11 20:06                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-09-12  0:13                   ` Gabriel C
2017-09-12  0:33                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-09-12  0:48                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-09-12 16:52                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-09-12  5:13                   ` Marcel Holtmann
2017-09-12 16:27                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-09-13  6:52                       ` Marcel Holtmann
2017-09-13 17:39                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-02  8:34                           ` Kai-Heng Feng
2017-10-04  0:20                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-04  1:21                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-10-06  4:42                               ` Kai-Heng Feng

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