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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Dou Liyang <douly.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@oracle.com>,
	linux@armlinux.org.uk, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
	heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, john.stultz@linaro.org,
	sboyd@codeaurora.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, hpa@zytor.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/4] sched/clock: interface to allow timestamps early in boot
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 20:09:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170927180950.GD439@worktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170927180548.GM17526@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 08:05:48PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 09:52:36PM +0800, Dou Liyang wrote:
> > We do not want to do that. Because, we use "notsc" to support Dynamic
> > Reconfiguration[1].
> > 
> > AFAIK, this feature enables hot-add system board which contains CPUs
> > and memories. But the CPUs in different board may have different TSCs
> > which are not consistent with the TSC from the existing CPUs. If we hot-add
> > a board directly, the machine may happen the inconsistency of
> > TSC.
> > 
> > We make our effort to specify the same TSC value as existing one through
> > hardware and firmware, but it is hard. So we recommend to specify
> > "notsc" option in command line for users who want to use Dynamic
> > Reconfiguration.
> 
> Oh gawd, that's horrific. And in my book a good reason to kill that
> option.

That is, even with unsynchronized TSC we're better off using RDTSC. The
whole mess in kernel/sched/clock.c is all about getting semi sensible
results out of unsynchronized TSC.

There really is no reason to artificially kill TSC usage.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-27 18:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-30 18:03 [PATCH v6 0/4] Early boot time stamps for x86 Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-30 18:03 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] sched/clock: interface to allow timestamps early in boot Pavel Tatashin
2017-09-27 12:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-27 13:10     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-27 13:16       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-09-27 13:52         ` Dou Liyang
2017-09-27 17:13           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-09-27 18:05           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-27 18:09             ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2017-09-28 10:03               ` Dou Liyang
2017-09-28 11:58                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-28 12:12                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-28 13:11                     ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-09-29 15:00                       ` Dou Liyang
2017-10-18 10:01                         ` Dou Liyang
2017-10-18 13:38                           ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-09 16:34     ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-18 21:01       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-27 14:45   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-09-27 17:10     ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-09-27 18:11     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-30 18:03 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] time: sync read_boot_clock64() with persistent clock Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-30 18:03 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] x86/time: read_boot_clock64() implementation Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-30 18:03 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] x86/tsc: use tsc early Pavel Tatashin
     [not found]   ` <CALBSrqBKsojGGpe85GOg7jda-SJHLrR=pS-Pg-xa0SUg7j3OQA@mail.gmail.com>
2017-08-30 21:21     ` Fenghua Yu
2017-08-30 21:32       ` Pasha Tatashin

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