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From: Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "Mario Limonciello" <Mario.Limonciello@dell.com>,
	"Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Platform Driver" <platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org>,
	quasisec@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/12] platform/x86: dell-wmi-smbios: Add a sysfs interface for SMBIOS tokens
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 11:55:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170927185514.GN23572@fury> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHp75VfURDc-FPfnsO93B_P5sEz9EzxjuPjHLKArmB39ABMp1w@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 09:31:47PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 9:27 PM,  <Mario.Limonciello@dell.com> wrote:
> 
> >> > > > Darren, Andy, any comments? I'm not quite sure if such API is suitable
> >> > > > for long term in kernel.
> >> > >
> >> > > I would try to avoid sysfs interfaces for some particular devices.
> >> > > Besides we are creating a character device. Would it be suitable there?
> >> >
> >> > If the character device having 2 different ioctls for different needs is
> >> > acceptable I'm happy to adjust the series to do this instead.
> >>
> >> One piece of feedback I had re the char device was to see if we could avoid the
> >> need for the IOCTL altogether, I'd like to have that discussion before we add
> >> another.
> >
> > My original design was sysfs files for everything but it was raised by several folks
> > that you run into the potential of two userspace processes stomping on each
> > other's data when they run the ACPI call.  That's why I need to have a mutex to
> > protect and make sure that userspace calls get the right results.
> >
> 
> >> > > > Basically tokens are list of tuples <id, location, value> with
> >> > > > possibility to active them, right?
> >> > > >
> >> >
> >> > I didn't add a way to activate them through this, it was only for
> >> > reading purpose.  Activating them should be possible through the
> >> > SMBIOS calling interface though.
> >> >
> >>
> >> These are read-only as I understood it, and only with the right privileges.
> >> Sysfs seemed appropriate for this to me.
> >
> > Andy S was against having this data as another sysfs file.   From a userspace
> > perspective I think it's simpler to just parse a sysfs file with read only static
> > data as root.  With the current ioctl based solution it requires userspace to run
> > an ioctl to determine how many tokens exist, then allocate a chunk of memory
> > big enough to hold all the token data and then run another ioctl to get all the tokens.
> >
> > Andy S, given this change between v1 and v2 what do you feel is better?
> 
> I have no strong opinion on this. That's why I recommended to listen to Andy L.

+Andy Lutomirski

Andy L, any preference on your part regarding exporting these tokens via sysfs
or through an additional IOCTL in the chardev?

-- 
Darren Hart
VMware Open Source Technology Center

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-27 18:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-21 13:57 [PATCH 00/12] Introduce support for Dell SMBIOS over WMI Mario Limonciello
2017-09-21 13:57 ` [PATCH 01/12] platform/x86: dell-wmi: label driver as handling notifications Mario Limonciello
2017-09-25 16:04   ` Pali Rohár
2017-09-25 20:14     ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-09-27 15:43       ` Darren Hart
2017-09-21 13:57 ` [PATCH 02/12] platform/x86: dell-wmi: Don't match on descriptor GUID modalias Mario Limonciello
2017-09-25 16:06   ` Pali Rohár
2017-09-21 13:57 ` [PATCH 03/12] platform/x86: dell-smbios: Add pr_fmt definition to driver Mario Limonciello
2017-09-21 16:22   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-09-25 16:07   ` Pali Rohár
2017-09-21 13:57 ` [PATCH 04/12] platform/x86: dell-smbios: Switch to a WMI-ACPI interface Mario Limonciello
2017-09-25 16:18   ` Pali Rohár
2017-09-25 19:28     ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-09-27 16:46       ` Darren Hart
2017-09-27 18:29         ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-09-27 19:47   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-09-27 21:15     ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-09-21 13:57 ` [PATCH 05/12] platform/x86: dell-smbios: rename to dell-wmi-smbios Mario Limonciello
2017-09-21 13:57 ` [PATCH 06/12] platform/x86: dell-wmi-smbios: Add a sysfs interface for SMBIOS tokens Mario Limonciello
2017-09-25 16:23   ` Pali Rohár
2017-09-25 17:04     ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-09-25 17:31       ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-09-27 16:50         ` Darren Hart
2017-09-27 18:27           ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-09-27 18:31             ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-09-27 18:55               ` Darren Hart [this message]
2017-09-27 19:49                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-09-27 19:50                   ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-09-21 13:57 ` [PATCH 07/12] platform/x86: dell-wmi-smbios: Use Dell WMI descriptor check Mario Limonciello
2017-09-21 16:44   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-09-21 20:56     ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-09-21 13:57 ` [PATCH 08/12] platform/x86: wmi: Cleanup exit routine in reverse order of init Mario Limonciello
2017-09-21 13:57 ` [PATCH 09/12] platform/x86: wmi: create character devices when requested by drivers Mario Limonciello
2017-09-21 16:46   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-09-21 19:21     ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-09-21 13:57 ` [PATCH 10/12] platform/x86: wmi: destroy on cleanup rather than unregister Mario Limonciello
2017-09-21 13:57 ` [PATCH 11/12] platform/x86: dell-wmi-smbios: introduce character device for userspace Mario Limonciello
2017-09-25 16:31   ` Pali Rohár
2017-09-25 16:58     ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-09-25 17:46       ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-09-27 16:59         ` Darren Hart
2017-09-27 18:10           ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-09-27 18:50             ` Darren Hart
2017-09-27 21:12               ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-09-27 21:59                 ` Darren Hart
2017-09-21 13:57 ` [PATCH 12/12] platform/x86: Kconfig: Change the default settings for dell-wmi-smbios Mario Limonciello
2017-09-25 16:13 ` [PATCH 00/12] Introduce support for Dell SMBIOS over WMI Pali Rohár
2017-09-25 16:32   ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-09-25 16:49     ` Pali Rohár
2017-09-25 19:27       ` Mario.Limonciello
2017-09-27 16:39         ` Darren Hart

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