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From: "acme@kernel.org" <acme@kernel.org>
To: "Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@intel.com>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
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	"jolsa@kernel.org" <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	"namhyung@kernel.org" <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	"Hunter, Adrian" <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	"Odzioba, Lukasz" <lukasz.odzioba@intel.com>,
	"wangnan0@huawei.com" <wangnan0@huawei.com>,
	"hekuang@huawei.com" <hekuang@huawei.com>,
	"ast@kernel.org" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"ak@linux.intel.com" <ak@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC V4 5/6] perf top: switch to backward overwrite mode
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 15:03:46 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171002180346.GB2869@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <37D7C6CF3E00A74B8858931C1DB2F077537CD661@SHSMSX103.ccr.corp.intel.com>

Em Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 05:19:41PM +0000, Liang, Kan escreveu:
> 
> 
> > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 07:47:56AM -0700, kan.liang@intel.com wrote:
> > > From: Kan Liang <kan.liang@intel.com>
> > >
> > > perf_top__mmap_read has severe performance issue in Knights
> > > Landing/Mill, when monitoring in heavy load system. It costs several
> > > minutes to finish, which is unacceptable.
> > >
> > > perf top was overwrite mode. But it is changed to non overwrite mode
> > > since commit 93fc64f14472 ("perf top: Switch to non overwrite mode").
> > > For non overwrite mode, it tries to read everything in the ring buffer
> > > and does not check the messup. Once there are lots of samples
> > > delivered shortly, the processing time could be very long.
> > > Knights Landing/Mill as a manycore processor contains a large number
> > > of small cores. Because of the huge core number, it will generated
> > > lots of samples in a heavy load system. Also, since the huge sample#,
> > > the mmap writer probably bite the tail and mess up the samples.
> > >
> > > Also, to avoid the problems which is described in commit 9ecda41acb97
> > > ("perf/core: Add ::write_backward attribute to perf event"), switch to
> > > backward overwrite mode.
> > > Pausing the ring-buffer during perf_top__mmap_read to ensure the
> > > ring-buffer is stable.
> > > There would be some records lost in backward overwrite mode. Removing
> > > the lost events checking.
> > 
> > I'm getting perf top hogging the cpu completely with this change
> > 
> 
> I think I find the root cause of the cpu hogging.
> perf_mmap__read_catchup discards the md->prev from previous mmap_read.
> Current mmap_read doesn't know which data has already been processed by
> previous mmap_read. So it has to go through all the valid data in the ring buffer,
> even most of the data has been processed by previous mmap_read.
> 
> Also, it looks perf record has the similar issue.
> The previous location will be discarded as well in backward overwrite mode.
> That will be an issue when --overwrite and --switch-output are enabled.
> The new output will always include the old data in the previous output, which
> should be wrong.
> 
> I think I will rewrite the perf_mmap__read_backward and perf_mmap__read_catchup
> to fix this issue in a separate thread. Those functions should be common backward
> mmap_read functions for all tools and tests.
> 
> BTW, are you OK with patch 1-4?
> Those patches multithreading the machine__synthesize_threads, which is
> irrelevant with the overwrite mode.
> I think they can be merged separately.

I'll try and process 1-4 while you work on the read_backward case.

- Arnaldo

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-02 18:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-29 14:47 [PATCH RFC V4 0/6] perf top optimization kan.liang
2017-09-29 14:47 ` [PATCH RFC V4 1/6] perf tools: lock to protect namespaces and comm list kan.liang
2017-10-02 18:05   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2017-10-02 19:14     ` Liang, Kan
2017-10-02 19:34       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2017-10-03 16:44   ` [tip:perf/core] perf tools: Lock " tip-bot for Kan Liang
2017-09-29 14:47 ` [PATCH RFC V4 2/6] perf tools: lock to protect comm_str rb tree kan.liang
2017-10-03 16:45   ` [tip:perf/core] perf tools: Lock " tip-bot for Kan Liang
2017-09-29 14:47 ` [PATCH RFC V4 3/6] perf top: implement multithreading for perf_event__synthesize_threads kan.liang
2017-10-03 16:45   ` [tip:perf/core] perf top: Implement " tip-bot for Kan Liang
2017-09-29 14:47 ` [PATCH RFC V4 4/6] perf top: add option to set the number of thread for event synthesize kan.liang
2017-10-03 16:45   ` [tip:perf/core] perf top: Add " tip-bot for Kan Liang
2017-09-29 14:47 ` [PATCH RFC V4 5/6] perf top: switch to backward overwrite mode kan.liang
2017-09-30 19:48   ` Jiri Olsa
2017-10-02 17:19     ` Liang, Kan
2017-10-02 18:03       ` acme [this message]
2017-10-03  8:24       ` Jiri Olsa
2017-09-29 14:47 ` [PATCH RFC V4 6/6] perf top: check the cost of perf_top__mmap_read kan.liang

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