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From: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Anil S Keshavamurthy <anil.s.keshavamurthy@intel.com>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Ian McDonald <ian.mcdonald@jandi.co.nz>,
	Vlad Yasevich <vyasevich@gmail.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH -tip 0/5] kprobes: Abolish jprobe APIs
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 09:32:52 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171006093252.2ea0e445187feca6cb49d517@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jJbSFjck+_-RGQytkDuRhtc1U=pYXavyxpbjd_W-=N_tA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 16:35:22 -0700
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > This series abolishes jprobe APIs and remove or disable related
> > code. This is a preparation of removing all jprobe code (including
> > kprobe's break_handler.)
> > I'm not so sure how many jprobe users still exists, but
> > please migrate your tool to trace-event or perf-probe.
> >
> > As we discussed this thread ( https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/10/2/386 ),
> > we decided to remove jprobe.
> >
> > Nowadays ftrace and other tracing features are enough matured
> > to replace jprobe use-cases. Users can safely use ftrace and
> > perf probe etc. for their use cases. So we have better way.
> > IOW, jprobe finished its task.
> >
> > People who still use jprobe, must migrate to other tracing features.
> > Please consider to migrate your tool to following options.
> >
> > - Use trace-event to trace target function with arguments
> >   trace-event is a low-overhead (and almost no visible overhead if it
> >   is off) statically defined event interface. You can define new events
> >   and trace it via ftrace or any other tracing tools.
> >   See following urls,
> >   - https://lwn.net/Articles/379903/
> >   - https://lwn.net/Articles/381064/
> >   - https://lwn.net/Articles/383362/
> 
> It seems this method requires setting up the target trace ahead of time?
> 
> > - Use ftrace dynamic events (kprobe event) with perf-probe
> >   If you build your kernel with debug info (CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO), you can
> >   find which register/stack is assigned to which local variable or arguments
> >   by using perf-probe and set up new event to trace it.
> >   See following documents,
> >   - Documentation/trace/kprobetrace.txt
> >   - Documentation/trace/events.txt
> >   - tools/perf/Documentation/perf-probe.txt
> 
> These seem to be more about setting up probes from userspace.
> 
> > As far as I can see, tcp probe, dccp probe, sctp probe and lkdtm
> > are using jprobe to probe function. Please consider to migrate.
> 
> I'm happy to do so, but I'm quite unfamiliar with how to do this (I
> didn't write lkdtm's jprobe code originally). lkdtm just wants to hook
> function entry and call it's own function before.
> 
> It uses struct jprobe like this:
> 
>                 .jprobe = {                                     \
>                         .kp.symbol_name = _symbol,              \
>                         .entry = (kprobe_opcode_t *)_entry,     \
>                 },                                              \
> 
> and defines a bunch of handlers like this for the _symbol and _entry pairs:
> 
>                    "do_IRQ",                    jp_do_irq),
> ...
>                    "tasklet_action",            jp_tasklet_action),
> 
> where all the handlers look exactly the same (and don't care about arguments):

If so, you can just change it to kprobes instead of jprobe.
e.g.

	.kprobe = {
		.symbol_name = _symbol,
		.pre_handler = _entry,
	}

and 
	"do_IRQ",	kp_pre_handler),
...
	"tasklet_action",	kp_pre_handler),

both kp_do_irq and kp_tasklet_action has same signature, so you can
use same function like 

static unsigned int kp_pre_handler(struct kprobe *kp, struct pt_regs *regs)
{
        lkdtm_handler();
        return 0;
}

I think using ftrace gives you lower latency, but you need to depend on
CONFIG_FUNCTION_TRACER instead of CONFIG_KPROBES.

Anyway, please choose either one of those :)

Thank you,

-- 
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-10-06  0:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-05 23:13 [RFC PATCH -tip 0/5] kprobes: Abolish jprobe APIs Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-05 23:13 ` [RFC PATCH -tip 1/5] kprobes: Use ENOTSUPP instead of ENOSYS Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-20  8:57   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-20 15:51     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-05 23:14 ` [RFC PATCH -tip 2/5] kprobes: Abolish jprobe APIs Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-20 12:26   ` [tip:perf/core] kprobes: Disable the jprobes APIs tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-05 23:15 ` [RFC PATCH -tip 3/5] kprobes: Disable jprobe test code Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-20 12:26   ` [tip:perf/core] kprobes: Disable the jprobes " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-05 23:15 ` [RFC PATCH -tip 4/5] kprobes: Remove jprobe sample code Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-20 12:27   ` [tip:perf/core] kprobes: Remove the jprobes " tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-05 23:16 ` [RFC PATCH -tip 5/5] kprobes: docs: Remove jprobe related document Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-20 12:27   ` [tip:perf/core] kprobes/docs: Remove jprobes related documents tip-bot for Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-05 23:35 ` [RFC PATCH -tip 0/5] kprobes: Abolish jprobe APIs Kees Cook
2017-10-05 23:58   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-06  0:06     ` Kees Cook
2017-10-06  4:49     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-06 12:58       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-06 15:34       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-07  5:24         ` Stafford Horne
2017-10-09 16:48           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-07  8:55         ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-09 16:45           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-07  9:35         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-09 16:59           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-09 15:33         ` Jonathan Corbet
2017-10-09 16:20           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-09 16:33             ` Jonathan Corbet
2017-10-09 16:41               ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-09 18:10           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-10 14:02           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-06  0:32   ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2017-10-06  1:11     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-06  4:47       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-10-20 12:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-20 13:32   ` Kees Cook
2017-10-20 15:17     ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-20 16:28       ` Kees Cook
2017-10-21  8:06         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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