Re: Contribution to Linux Kernel.

Re: Contribution to Linux Kernel.

[Javier Romero]

Hi,

Last question, it will be the same to do Kernel testing on a virtual 
machine, or it will be better to do kernel testing over a no virtual 
machine?

Regards,



Javi


El 24/09/17 a las 17:25, Ken Moffat escribió:
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 12:52:08PM -0300, Javier Romero wrote:
>> Hi Ken,
>>
>> Thank you for your answer.
>>
>> Will it be better to work with linux-next Kernel for testing?
>>
>> Regards.
>>
> Yes, no, maybe.  I can't say what will work (process) for you, it
> depends in part on what you want to test, and how flakey that is at
> any particular time.
>
> The -next kernels are transient - what is there today might be
> removed tomorrow, what is in linus's -rc kernels (and in point
> releases of stable kernels) usually remains unless somebody finds a
> showstopper bug.
>
> If you are testing -next, expect to find more problems : in theory
> everything which gets to Linus's tree has been through an amount of
> testing before he applies it.
>
> Most people have limited time to test kernels.  Build farms usually
> run boot tests on all of these kernels, but do very little testing
> of whether or not any particular use is worse than before.
>
> For any of these, expect problems to arise when least convenient to
> you.  I try to test linus's -rc kernels on my own hardware,
> typically not until at least -rc2, and then once or twice after
> that.
>
> On occasion I test patchsets which look interesting, usually I end
> up wishing I had not bothered (they claim to help things, but do
> little or nothing for my machines).
>
> The other problem with testing, when you do find a real issue, is
> making sure it is repeatable so that you can bisect reliably.
>
> In short, test what interests you.  It's like writing or fixing
> code for the kernel as a hobby - work on what matters to you.
> Getting enough experience and visibility to become paid to code is a
> different thing entirely, I can't advise on that.
>
> So, for me it is just a hobby (with a side order of "hope this new
> release doesn't break anything for me").
>
> If you are not being paid for it, try to enjoy it.
>
> ĸen

Re: Contribution to Linux Kernel.

[Kamil Konieczny]

On 25.09.2017 21:03, Javier Romero wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Last question, it will be the same to do Kernel testing on a virtual machine, 
> or it will be better to do kernel testing over a no virtual machine?
> 
> El 24/09/17 a las 17:25, Ken Moffat escribió:
>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 12:52:08PM -0300, Javier Romero wrote:
>>> Hi Ken,
>>>
>>> Will it be better to work with linux-next Kernel for testing?
>>>
>> Yes, no, maybe.  I can't say what will work (process) for you, it
>> depends in part on what you want to test, and how flakey that is at
>> any particular time.
>>[...]

both tests will be different, because VM is not bare metal machine
and both will be valueable

Regards,
Kamil

Re: Contribution to Linux Kernel.

[Javier Romero]

Ken / Kamil,

Thank you very much for your time to answer.
Will create a VM and install all the enviroment needed to start testing.
Again, thanks for your suggestions!
Regards,

Javi


El 26/09/17 a las 06:14, Kamil Konieczny escribió:
> On 25.09.2017 21:03, Javier Romero wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Last question, it will be the same to do Kernel testing on a virtual machine,
>> or it will be better to do kernel testing over a no virtual machine?
>>
>> El 24/09/17 a las 17:25, Ken Moffat escribió:
>>> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 12:52:08PM -0300, Javier Romero wrote:
>>>> Hi Ken,
>>>>
>>>> Will it be better to work with linux-next Kernel for testing?
>>>>
>>> Yes, no, maybe.  I can't say what will work (process) for you, it
>>> depends in part on what you want to test, and how flakey that is at
>>> any particular time.
>>> [...]
> both tests will be different, because VM is not bare metal machine
> and both will be valueable
>
> Regards,
> Kamil
>

Re: Contribution to Linux Kernel.

[Pavel Machek]

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Hi!
> 
> Thank you very much for your time to answer.
> Will create a VM and install all the enviroment needed to start testing.
> Again, thanks for your suggestions!

Using linux-next on some older (32-bit) machine for daily use would be
very valuable. As most people went 64-bit these days, there are errors
introduced there.

I'm trying to do that on thinkpad x60, but more help would be welcome.
									Pavel
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Re: Contribution to Linux Kernel.

[Javier Romero]

Hi Pavel,

Thank you for your answer.

I've a Raspberry PI 3 and read that this device use it's own fork of
the Linux Kernel.

But do you think it would be useful to test linux-next on this device?

Regards


2017-10-23 6:29 GMT-03:00 Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>:
> Hi!
>>
>> Thank you very much for your time to answer.
>> Will create a VM and install all the enviroment needed to start testing.
>> Again, thanks for your suggestions!
>
> Using linux-next on some older (32-bit) machine for daily use would be
> very valuable. As most people went 64-bit these days, there are errors
> introduced there.
>
> I'm trying to do that on thinkpad x60, but more help would be welcome.
>                                                                         Pavel
> --
> (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
> (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html

Re: Contribution to Linux Kernel.

[Pavel Machek]

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Hi!

> Thank you for your answer.
> 
> I've a Raspberry PI 3 and read that this device use it's own fork of the
> Linux Kernel.

> But do you think it would be useful to test linux-next on this device?

Well, if you can get linux-next working there, yes, that would be
nice.  But this may be a bit too big task to start with.

But what I meant was running 32-bit linux-next on some spare
computer. Not enough people test that version...
									Pavel
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Re: Contribution to Linux Kernel.

[Javier Romero]

Hi people,

Well, after reading those links provided by all of you, I'd like to start contributing as a Kernel tester.

Have also read this link about testing the Kernel:

http://m.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-kernel-testing-and-debugging?page=0,0

Which are the minimal hardware requirements to start contributing as a tester for X86 processors?

I have a Raspberry PI 3, can this device be useful for testing Linux Kernel on ARM arquitecture?

Thanks for your kind attention.

Regards 

JaviEl 22 sept. 2017 7:02 a. m., Kamil Konieczny <k.konieczny@partner.samsung.com> escribió:
>
> On 21.09.2017 23:16, Javier Romero wrote: 
> > My name is Javier, live in Argentina, and work as a Linux Server admin in the Network Operations Center of an ISP. 
> > 
> > Would like to know, how can I start contributing to the Linux kernel. 
> > 
> > Sorry for the inconvenience. 
>
> see 
> https://kernelnewbies.org/ 
>
> gmane.linux.kernel.kernelnewbies 
>
> You can also contribute by testing, see 
>
> https://lists.kernelnewbies.org/pipermail/kernelnewbies/2017-April/017765.html 
>
> http://tobin.cc/blog 
>
>
> Regards, 
> Kamil Konieczny 

Contribution to Linux Kernel.

[Javier Romero]

Hello,

My name is Javier, live in Argentina, and work as a Linux Server admin 
in the Network Operations Center of an ISP.

Would like to know, how can I start contributing to the Linux kernel.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Regards,



Javier Romero

Re: Contribution to Linux Kernel.

[Kamil Konieczny]

On 21.09.2017 23:16, Javier Romero wrote:
> My name is Javier, live in Argentina, and work as a Linux Server admin in the Network Operations Center of an ISP.
> 
> Would like to know, how can I start contributing to the Linux kernel.
> 
> Sorry for the inconvenience.

see 
https://kernelnewbies.org/

gmane.linux.kernel.kernelnewbies

You can also contribute by testing, see

https://lists.kernelnewbies.org/pipermail/kernelnewbies/2017-April/017765.html

http://tobin.cc/blog


Regards,
Kamil Konieczny

Re: Contribution to Linux Kernel.

[Javier Romero]

Hello Kamil,

Thanks for your suggestions.

I'll check those links to learn how can I start contributing.

Best Regards,



Javier Romero


El 22/09/17 a las 07:02, Kamil Konieczny escribió:
> On 21.09.2017 23:16, Javier Romero wrote:
>> My name is Javier, live in Argentina, and work as a Linux Server admin in the Network Operations Center of an ISP.
>>
>> Would like to know, how can I start contributing to the Linux kernel.
>>
>> Sorry for the inconvenience.
> see
> https://kernelnewbies.org/
>
> gmane.linux.kernel.kernelnewbies
>
> You can also contribute by testing, see
>
> https://lists.kernelnewbies.org/pipermail/kernelnewbies/2017-April/017765.html
>
> http://tobin.cc/blog
>
>
> Regards,
> Kamil Konieczny

Re: Contribution to Linux Kernel.

[Jonathan Corbet]

On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 18:16:12 -0300
Javier Romero <linux.kernel.programming@gmail.com> wrote:

> My name is Javier, live in Argentina, and work as a Linux Server admin 
> in the Network Operations Center of an ISP.
> 
> Would like to know, how can I start contributing to the Linux kernel.

A good place to start is the documentation on the kernel development
process:

	https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/index.html

Thanks,

jon

Re: Contribution to Linux Kernel.

[Javier Romero]

Hi Jon,

Thank you very much for your suggestion.

Best Regards,



Javi


El 22/09/17 a las 16:15, Jonathan Corbet escribió:
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 18:16:12 -0300
> Javier Romero <linux.kernel.programming@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My name is Javier, live in Argentina, and work as a Linux Server admin
>> in the Network Operations Center of an ISP.
>>
>> Would like to know, how can I start contributing to the Linux kernel.
> A good place to start is the documentation on the kernel development
> process:
>
> 	https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/index.html
>
> Thanks,
>
> jon