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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
To: chris hyser <chris.hyser@oracle.com>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	"Daniel Micay" <danielmicay@gmail.com>,
	"Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार)" <maheshb@google.com>,
	"Mahesh Bandewar" <mahesh@bandewar.net>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kernel-hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	"Linux API" <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Eric W . Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"David Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH resend 2/2] userns: control capabilities of some user namespaces
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 12:05:36 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171109180536.GA27994@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <da764cbf-7522-06a0-6c21-adfa3eaac9c2@oracle.com>

Quoting chris hyser (chris.hyser@oracle.com):
> On 11/06/2017 10:23 PM, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> >I think I definately prefer what I mentioned in the email to Boris.
> >Basically a "permanent capability bounding set".  The normal bounding
> >set gets reset to a full set on every new user_ns creation.  In this
> >proposal, it would instead be set to the calling task's permanent
> >capability set, which starts (at boot) full, and which privileged
> >tasks can pull capabilities out of.
> 
> Actually, this may solve a similar problem I've been looking at. The
> idea was basically at strategic points in the kernel (possibly LSM
> hook sites, still evaluating, and probably syscall entry) validate
> that a task has not "magically" acquired capabilities that it or
> parent specifically said it cannot have and then take some action
> like say killing it immediately. Using your terms, basically make
> the "permanent capability set" a write-once privilege escalation
> defense. To handle the 0-day threat, perhaps make it writable but
> only with more "restrictive" values.

Would the existing capability bounding set not suffice for that?

The 'permanent' bounding set turns out to not be a good fit for
the problem being discussed in this thread, but please feel free
to start a new thread if you want to discuss your use case.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-09 18:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-03  0:44 [PATCH resend 2/2] userns: control capabilities of some user namespaces Mahesh Bandewar
2017-11-04 23:53 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-11-06  7:23   ` Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार)
2017-11-06 15:03     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-11-06 21:33       ` [kernel-hardening] " Daniel Micay
2017-11-06 22:14         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-11-06 22:42           ` Christian Brauner
2017-11-06 23:17           ` Boris Lukashev
2017-11-06 23:39             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-11-07  0:01               ` Boris Lukashev
2017-11-07  3:28                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-11-08 11:09                   ` Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार)
2017-11-08 19:02                     ` Christian Brauner
2017-11-09  0:55                       ` Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार)
2017-11-09  3:21                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-11-09  7:18                           ` Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार)
2017-11-09 16:14                             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-11-09 21:58                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-11-10  4:30                               ` Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार)
2017-11-10  4:46                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-11-10  5:28                                 ` Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार)
2017-11-07  2:16           ` Daniel Micay
2017-11-07  3:23             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-11-09 18:01               ` chris hyser
2017-11-09 18:05                 ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2017-11-09 18:27                   ` chris hyser
2017-11-09 17:25 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-11-10  1:49   ` Mahesh Bandewar (महेश बंडेवार)

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