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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Shawn Landden <slandden@gmail.com>
Cc: kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2] prctl: prctl(PR_SET_IDLE, PR_IDLE_MODE_KILLME), for stateless idle loops
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:11:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171115211152.GA6183@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171103063544.13383-1-slandden@gmail.com>

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Hi!

> It is common for services to be stateless around their main event loop.
> If a process sets PR_SET_IDLE to PR_IDLE_MODE_KILLME then it
> signals to the kernel that epoll_wait() and friends may not complete,
> and the kernel may send SIGKILL if resources get tight.
> 
> See my systemd patch: https://github.com/shawnl/systemd/tree/prctl
> 
> Android uses this memory model for all programs, and having it in the
> kernel will enable integration with the page cache (not in this
> series).
> 
> 16 bytes per process is kinda spendy, but I want to keep
> lru behavior, which mem_score_adj does not allow. When a supervisor,
> like Android's user input is keeping track this can be done in user-space.
> It could be pulled out of task_struct if an cross-indexing additional
> red-black tree is added to support pid-based lookup.

Having android-like system for low memory killing might be
interesting... but rather than throwing around patches maybe there
should be discussion on lkml how the interface should look like,
first?

									Pavel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-15 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-01  5:32 [RFC] EPOLL_KILLME: New flag to epoll_wait() that subscribes process to death row (new syscall) Shawn Landden
2017-11-01 14:04 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-11-01 15:16 ` Colin Walters
2017-11-01 15:22   ` Colin Walters
2017-11-03  9:22     ` peter enderborg
     [not found]   ` <CA+49okox_Hvg-dGyjZc3u0qLz1S=LJjS4-WT6SxQ9qfPyp6BjQ@mail.gmail.com>
2017-11-01 19:37     ` Colin Walters
2017-11-02 15:24       ` Shawn Paul Landden
2017-11-01 22:10 ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-02 15:45 ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-03  6:35 ` [RFC v2] prctl: prctl(PR_SET_IDLE, PR_IDLE_MODE_KILLME), for stateless idle loops Shawn Landden
2017-11-03  9:09   ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-18 20:33     ` Shawn Landden
     [not found]     ` <CA+49okqZ8CME0EN1xS_cCTc5Q-fGRreg0makhzNNuRpGs3mjfw@mail.gmail.com>
2017-11-19  4:19       ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-11-20  8:35       ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-21  4:48         ` Shawn Landden
2017-11-21  7:05           ` Michal Hocko
2017-11-15 21:11   ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2017-11-21  4:49   ` [RFC v3] It is common for services to be stateless around their main event loop. If a process sets PR_SET_IDLE to PR_IDLE_MODE_KILLME then it signals to the kernel that epoll_wait() and friends may not complete, and the kernel may send SIGKILL if resources get tight Shawn Landden
2017-11-21  4:56     ` Shawn Landden
2017-11-21  5:16     ` [RFC v4] " Shawn Landden
2017-11-21  5:26       ` Shawn Landden
2017-11-21  9:14       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-22 10:29   ` [RFC v2] prctl: prctl(PR_SET_IDLE, PR_IDLE_MODE_KILLME), for stateless idle loops peter enderborg

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