From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] schedule: use unlikely()
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 08:22:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171128072250.GA10757@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.02.1711271901050.9280@file01.intranet.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com>
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 07:05:22PM -0500, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 25 Nov 2017, Greg KH wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 02:00:45PM -0500, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > > A small patch for schedule(), so that the code goes straght in the common
> > > case.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
> >
> > Was this a measurable difference? If so, great, please provide the
> > numbers and how you tested in the changelog. If it can't be measured,
> > then it is not worth it to add these markings
>
> It is much easier to make microoptimizations (such as using likely() and
> unlikely()) than to measure their effect.
>
> If a programmer were required to measure performance every time he uses
> likely() or unlikely() in his code, he wouldn't use them at all.
If you can not measure it, you should not use it. You are forgetting
about the testing that was done a few years ago that found that some
huge percentage (80? 75? 90?) of all of these markings were wrong and
harmful or did absolutely nothing.
> > as the CPU/compiler almost always knows better.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > greg k-h
>
> The compiler assumes that pointers are usually not NULL - but in this
> case, they are usually NULL. The compiler can't know better (unless
> profile feedback is used).
If you think so, great, but prove it, otherwise you are adding markup
that is not needed or could be harmful. :)
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-28 7:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-13 19:00 [PATCH] schedule: use unlikely() Mikulas Patocka
2017-11-24 7:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-11-24 18:47 ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-11-25 8:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-11-28 3:36 ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-11-25 8:56 ` Greg KH
2017-11-28 0:05 ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-11-28 7:22 ` Greg KH [this message]
2017-11-30 7:04 ` Mikulas Patocka
2017-11-30 8:07 ` Greg KH
2017-12-08 14:30 ` Pavel Machek
2017-12-08 14:56 ` Greg KH
2017-12-08 14:29 ` Pavel Machek
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