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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/4] bpf: inhibit speculated out-of-bounds pointers
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 00:45:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180103234529.GA32035@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180103223827.39601-5-mark.rutland@arm.com>

On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 10:38:27PM +0000, Mark Rutland wrote:
> Under speculation, CPUs may mis-predict branches in bounds checks. Thus,
> memory accesses under a bounds check may be speculated even if the
> bounds check fails, providing a primitive for building a side channel.
> 
> The EBPF map code has a number of such bounds-checks accesses in
> map_lookup_elem implementations. This patch modifies these to use the
> nospec helpers to inhibit such side channels.
> 
> The JITted lookup_elem implementations remain potentially vulnerable,
> and are disabled (with JITted code falling back to the C
> implementations).

Since this is now public, let me re-iterate that I don't particularly
like this approach. If you have to kill the JIT, could we please keep
that in the arch JIT implementation?

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-03 23:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-03 22:38 [RFC PATCH 0/4] API for inhibiting speculative arbitrary read primitives Mark Rutland
2018-01-03 22:38 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] asm-generic/barrier: add generic nospec helpers Mark Rutland
2018-01-04 12:00   ` Mark Rutland
2018-01-05  4:21     ` Dan Williams
2018-01-05  9:15       ` Mark Rutland
2018-01-03 22:38 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] Documentation: document " Mark Rutland
2018-01-03 22:38 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] arm64: implement nospec_{load,ptr}() Mark Rutland
2018-01-03 22:38 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] bpf: inhibit speculated out-of-bounds pointers Mark Rutland
2018-01-03 23:45   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2018-01-04 10:59     ` Mark Rutland
2018-01-04  0:15 ` [RFC PATCH] asm/generic: introduce if_nospec and nospec_barrier Dan Williams
2018-01-04  0:39   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-04  1:07     ` Alan Cox
2018-01-04  1:13       ` Dan Williams
2018-01-04  6:28         ` Julia Lawall
2018-01-04 17:58           ` Dan Williams
2018-01-04 19:26             ` Pavel Machek
2018-01-04 21:43               ` Dan Williams
2018-01-04 22:20                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-04 22:23                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-04 22:55                   ` Alan Cox
2018-01-04 23:06                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-04 23:11                       ` Alan Cox
2018-01-05  0:24                       ` Dan Williams
2018-01-04 22:44                 ` Pavel Machek
2018-01-04 23:12                   ` Dan Williams
2018-01-04 23:21                     ` Alan Cox
2018-01-04 23:33                     ` Pavel Machek
2018-01-05  8:11                       ` Julia Lawall
2018-01-04  1:27       ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-04  1:41         ` Alan Cox
2018-01-04  1:47           ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-04 19:39             ` Pavel Machek
2018-01-04 20:32               ` Alan Cox
2018-01-04 20:39                 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-04 21:23                   ` Alan Cox
2018-01-04 21:48                     ` Pavel Machek
2018-01-04  1:51         ` Dan Williams
2018-01-04  1:54           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-04  3:10             ` Williams, Dan J
2018-01-04  4:44               ` Al Viro
2018-01-04  5:44                 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-04  5:49                   ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-04  5:50                   ` Al Viro
2018-01-04  5:55                     ` Al Viro
2018-01-04  6:42                       ` Dan Williams
2018-01-04  5:01               ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-04  6:32                 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-04 14:54                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-04 16:39                     ` Mark Rutland
2018-01-04 20:56                     ` Pavel Machek
2018-01-04 11:47               ` Mark Rutland
2018-01-04 22:09                 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-05 14:40                   ` Mark Rutland
2018-01-05 16:44                     ` Dan Williams
2018-01-05 18:05                       ` Dan Williams
2018-01-04  1:59           ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-04  2:15             ` Alan Cox
2018-01-04  3:12               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-01-04  9:16                 ` Reshetova, Elena
2018-01-04 20:40             ` Pavel Machek

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