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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	gregkh@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: Avoid speculative indirect calls in kernel
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 12:49:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180104114917.GC1702@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180104020019.1173-1-andi@firstfloor.org>

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Hi!

> This is a fix for Variant 2 in 
> https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2018/01/reading-privileged-memory-with-side.html
> 
> Any speculative indirect calls in the kernel can be tricked 
> to execute any kernel code, which may allow side channel
> attacks that can leak arbitrary kernel data.

Ok.

> So we want to avoid speculative indirect calls in the kernel.
> 
> There's a special code sequence called a retpoline that can
> do indirect calls without speculation. We use a new compiler
> option -mindirect-branch=thunk-extern (gcc patch will be released
> separately) to recompile the kernel with this new sequence.

So... this "retpoline" code is quite tricky; I guess it does the right
on recent Intel CPUs. Does it also do the right thing on all the AMD,
Cyrix, ... variants?

Is it neccessary on all the CPUs? I guess 486 does not need this?

									Pavel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-01-04 11:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-04  2:00 Avoid speculative indirect calls in kernel Andi Kleen
2018-01-04  2:00 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] x86/retpoline: Define retpoline indirect thunk and macros Andi Kleen
2018-01-04  2:15   ` Brian Gerst
2018-01-04  2:32     ` Alan Cox
2018-01-04  2:00 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] x86/retpoline/crypto: Convert crypto assembler indirect jumps Andi Kleen
2018-01-04  2:00 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] x86/retpoline/entry: Convert entry " Andi Kleen
2018-01-04  8:42   ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-04  2:00 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] x86/retpoline/ftrace: Convert ftrace " Andi Kleen
2018-01-04  2:00 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] x86/retpoline/hyperv: Convert " Andi Kleen
2018-01-04  2:00 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] x86/retpoline/crypto: Convert xen " Andi Kleen
2018-01-04  6:48   ` Juergen Gross
2018-01-04  6:50     ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-04  2:00 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] x86/retpoline/checksum32: Convert " Andi Kleen
2018-01-04  2:00 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] x86/retpoline/irq32: " Andi Kleen
2018-01-04  2:00 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] x86/retpoline: Finally enable retpoline for C code Andi Kleen
2018-01-04  2:00 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] retpoline/taint: Taint kernel for missing retpoline in compiler Andi Kleen
2018-01-04  2:00 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] retpoline/objtool: Disable some objtool warnings Andi Kleen
2018-01-04 14:38   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-04 14:46     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-04 15:59     ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-04 16:06       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-04 16:13         ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-04 16:32           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-04 17:35             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-04  2:00 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] retpoline: Attempt to quiten objtool warning for unreachable code Andi Kleen
2018-01-04 11:49 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2018-01-04 12:09   ` Avoid speculative indirect calls in kernel Alan Cox
2018-01-04 13:32     ` Pavel Machek
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2018-02-23 21:10 Ywe Cærlyn
2018-01-12  8:20 Dr. Greg Wettstein
2018-01-03 23:09 Andi Kleen
2018-01-03 23:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-04  0:00   ` Alan Cox
2018-01-04  0:09   ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-04  0:12     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-04  0:15       ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-04  0:19         ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-05  2:01           ` james harvey
2018-01-05 10:40             ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-05 12:29               ` james harvey
2018-01-05 12:06             ` Alan Cox
2018-01-04  0:29         ` Alan Cox
2018-01-04  0:31           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-04  0:38             ` Alan Cox
2018-01-04  0:40             ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-04  8:15               ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-04 15:53                 ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-04 15:55                   ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-04  0:20       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-04  0:26         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-04  0:18     ` David Lang
2018-01-04  1:00   ` Paul Turner
2018-01-04  1:41   ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-04  1:59     ` Alan Cox
2018-01-04  2:11       ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-04  8:20         ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-04 11:42           ` Pavel Machek
2018-01-04 11:47             ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-04 14:20               ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-04 14:51                 ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-04 15:29                   ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-04 15:32                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-04 15:37                       ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-04 16:15                     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-04 20:00                       ` Tom Lendacky
2018-01-04 20:05                         ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-04 23:47                           ` Tom Lendacky
2018-01-05  0:06                             ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-05  0:26                             ` Tom Lendacky
2018-01-04 16:52                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-04 15:32                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-04 16:25                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-04 17:04                       ` Alan Cox
2018-01-04 17:40                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-04 17:13                       ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-04 17:15                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-04 18:05                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-04 14:55                 ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-04 18:24                 ` Pavel Machek
2018-01-04 19:57           ` Jon Masters
2018-01-05  0:41             ` Jon Masters
2018-01-05  0:54               ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-05  4:11                 ` Jon Masters
2018-01-05  9:59                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-08 10:28                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-08 20:53                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-08 21:32                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-10  0:45                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-10  1:11                             ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-10 16:02                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-05  6:49                 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-05  6:57                   ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-05  7:13                     ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-07 14:14                       ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-07 17:21                         ` David Lang
2018-01-07 18:49                           ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-07 17:44                         ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-07 18:55                           ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-07 22:10                             ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-08  9:18                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-08  9:29                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-08 16:22                               ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-08 16:53                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-05 12:12                 ` Alan Cox
2018-01-09  1:44                   ` Samir Bellabes
     [not found]                 ` <CAL9bgJ8XNJgCtxR6+M+Vm9eDBVZ4Dyi_-Lt-Q1ei9N=TE2c6cg@mail.gmail.com>
2018-01-07  5:04                   ` Fwd: " Kiernan Hager
2018-01-07 14:01                     ` Alan Cox
2018-01-07 17:47                       ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-07 18:01                         ` Ivan Ivanov
2018-01-07 18:16                           ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-04 11:26   ` Pavel Machek
2018-01-04 11:54     ` Alan Cox
2018-01-04 18:33     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-04 20:08       ` Jon Masters

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