From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
Arjan Van De Ven <arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/7] x86/spec_ctrl: Add sysctl knobs to enable/disable SPEC_CTRL feature
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 20:06:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180104190645.poukc46fbwtwevby@pd.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e83ce989-5f4d-b35a-aeed-34b8eb949bea@intel.com>
On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 10:59:35AM -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 01/04/2018 10:52 AM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> >> Paranoid people want "IBRS always" aka "ibrs 2".
> >
> > So why not "IBRS always" or off? No need for the "IBRS only in the
> > kernel" setting.
>
> IBRS=1 slows execution down. If it's on all the time, you pay a
> performance cost in userspace. The assumption is that the user/kernel
> boundary switching cost is below the cost of having it on all the time.
Ok, so we need to make this distinction visible to users so that they
are aware.
Also, adding a common, combined option which is called something like
make_my_kernel_supa_dupa_secure
or so would make sense too, for all those paranoid people. Because I see
the mess coming:
ibrs= ibpb= pti= ...
A helluva confusion that would be.
Thx.
--
Regards/Gruss,
Boris.
Good mailing practices for 400: avoid top-posting and trim the reply.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-04 19:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-04 17:56 [PATCH 0/7] IBRS patch series Tim Chen
2018-01-04 17:56 ` [PATCH 1/7] x86/feature: Detect the x86 feature to control Speculation Tim Chen
2018-01-04 19:58 ` Greg KH
2018-01-04 20:47 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-05 11:14 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-05 15:14 ` Tom Lendacky
2018-01-05 17:07 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-05 13:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-05 13:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-05 13:51 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-04 17:56 ` [PATCH 2/7] x86/enter: MACROS to set/clear IBRS Tim Chen
2018-01-04 22:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-04 22:21 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-04 22:23 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-05 4:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-05 5:05 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-05 13:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-04 17:56 ` [PATCH 3/7] x86/enter: Use IBRS on syscall and interrupts Tim Chen
2018-01-04 20:00 ` Greg KH
2018-01-04 20:26 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-04 20:45 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-04 22:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-04 23:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-05 0:08 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-05 4:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-05 5:11 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-05 12:01 ` Alan Cox
2018-01-05 13:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-04 17:56 ` [PATCH 4/7] x86/idle: Disable IBRS entering idle and enable it on wakeup Tim Chen
2018-01-04 22:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-04 23:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-04 23:22 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-04 23:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-04 23:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-05 0:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-08 8:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-04 17:56 ` [PATCH 5/7] x86: Use IBRS for firmware update path Tim Chen
2018-01-04 18:48 ` Alan Cox
2018-01-04 20:05 ` Greg KH
2018-01-04 20:08 ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-05 16:08 ` gregkh
2018-01-05 16:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-04 20:21 ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-04 20:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-04 20:51 ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2018-01-04 21:13 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-04 22:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-05 13:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-04 17:56 ` [PATCH 6/7] x86/spec_ctrl: Add sysctl knobs to enable/disable SPEC_CTRL feature Tim Chen
2018-01-04 18:33 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-04 18:36 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-04 18:52 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-04 18:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-04 18:59 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-04 19:06 ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2018-01-05 13:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-04 18:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-04 18:54 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-04 18:56 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-04 18:55 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-04 18:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-04 19:02 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-04 18:50 ` Alan Cox
2018-01-04 20:16 ` Greg KH
2018-01-04 20:58 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-04 22:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-04 23:26 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-04 23:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-04 23:59 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-05 0:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-05 11:16 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-06 1:29 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-04 17:56 ` [PATCH 7/7] x86/microcode: Recheck IBRS features on microcode reload Tim Chen
2018-01-04 18:28 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-04 18:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-04 18:50 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-04 19:10 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-05 13:32 ` Greg KH
2018-01-05 13:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-05 13:47 ` Greg KH
2018-01-05 15:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-04 19:00 ` [PATCH 0/7] IBRS patch series Linus Torvalds
2018-01-04 19:19 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-04 19:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-04 19:39 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-04 19:40 ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-04 19:46 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-04 21:22 ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-05 11:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-05 12:09 ` Paul Turner
2018-01-05 14:45 ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-05 14:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-05 14:52 ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-05 15:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-05 14:54 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-05 11:52 ` Paul Turner
2018-01-05 14:28 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-05 14:42 ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-05 15:38 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-05 16:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-05 16:37 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-05 16:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-05 16:44 ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-05 16:46 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-05 5:25 ` Florian Weimer
2018-01-05 11:05 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-04 19:05 ` Justin Forbes
2018-01-04 19:10 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-04 21:01 ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2018-01-05 13:28 ` Greg KH
2018-01-05 13:47 ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2018-01-05 14:01 ` Greg KH
2018-01-05 14:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-05 14:54 ` Yves-Alexis Perez
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