RE: [PATCH 0/7] IBRS patch series

Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-04T21:22:39Z

> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 11:19 AM, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Skylake the target for a 'ret' instruction may also come from the
> > BTB. So if you ever let the RSB (which remembers where the 'call's came
> > from get empty, you end up vulnerable.
>
> That sounds like it could cause mispredicts, but it doesn't sound _exploitable_.
>
> Sure, interrupts in between the call instruction and the 'ret' could
> overflow the return stack. And we could migrate to another CPU. And so
> apparently SMM clears the return stack too.
>
> ... but again, none of them sound even remotely _exploitable_.
>

this is about a level of paranoia you are comfortable with.

Retpoline on Skylake raises the bar for the issue enormously, but there are a set of corner cases that exist and that are not trivial to prove you dealt with them.

personally I am comfortable with retpoline on Skylake, but I would like to have IBRS as an opt in for the paranoid.