From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
"Van De Ven, Arjan" <arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad@kernel.org>,
Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Is: Linus, name for 'spectre' variable. Was:Re: [PATCH v2 4/8] x86/spec_ctrl: Add sysctl knobs to enable/disable SPEC_CTRL feature
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:46:18 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180106214618.GM19213@char.us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1801062235490.2376@nanos>
On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 10:39:27PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Jan 2018, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 08:47:19PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > > On Sat, 6 Jan 2018, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 01/06/2018 09:41 AM, Van De Ven, Arjan wrote:
> > > > >>>> .macro DISABLE_IBRS
> > > > >>>> - ALTERNATIVE "jmp .Lskip_\@", "", X86_FEATURE_SPEC_CTRL
> > > > >>>> + testl $1, dynamic_ibrs
> > > > >>> On every system call we end up hammering on this 'dynamic_ibrs'
> > > > >>> variable. And it looks like it can be flipped via the IPI mechanism.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Would it make sense for this to be per-cpu?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It's probably better to either just make it __read_mostly or get the
> > > > >> static branches that folks were suggesting actually working.
> > > > >
> > > > > I still wonder if this isn't just better as a boot command line
> > > >
> > > > It's simpler that way. But, ideally, we want to make it runtime
> > > > switchable to match the implementation in the distros.
> > >
> > > Stop this silly argument please. The distros shipped lots of crap which we
> > > dont want to have at all.
> > >
> > > I told you folks yesterday what I want to see and the sysctl thing is the
> > > least on that list and it's not needed for getting the important thing -
> > > the protection - to work.
> >
> > I agree. But this is what customers are told to inspect to see if they
> > are impacted. And if in the future versions this goes away or such - they
> > will freak out and cause needless escalations.
>
> That's the result of distros cramming stuff into their kernels without
> talking to us. It's their problem to explain that their customers.
I am trying to resolve this now for those distros's that haven't
crammed these patches in yet and get a resolution on the naming _now_
so they can update it to have the right name from the gecko for the future.
Lets rope in the boss.
>
> We can talks about the sysctl _AFTER_ fixing the real issues.
Perhaps we can delegate this to Linus.
>
> Thanks,
>
> tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-06 21:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-06 2:12 [PATCH v2 0/8] IBRS patch series Tim Chen
2018-01-06 2:12 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] x86/feature: Detect the x86 IBRS feature to control Speculation Tim Chen
2018-01-06 12:56 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-07 17:14 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-07 18:31 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-09 18:13 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-09 18:55 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-08 16:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-09 10:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-09 17:53 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-09 17:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-09 22:59 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-18 23:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-06 2:12 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] x86/enter: MACROS to set/clear IBRS Tim Chen
2018-01-07 12:03 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-07 17:12 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-07 18:44 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-08 22:24 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-06 2:12 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] x86/enter: Use IBRS on syscall and interrupts Tim Chen
2018-01-07 19:27 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-06 2:12 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] x86/spec_ctrl: Add sysctl knobs to enable/disable SPEC_CTRL feature Tim Chen
2018-01-06 3:12 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-08 12:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-08 16:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-08 17:28 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-08 17:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-08 19:34 ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-08 19:52 ` Lu, Hongjiu
2018-01-09 10:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-09 17:55 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-09 18:13 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-09 20:31 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-27 13:59 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-27 14:26 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-06 8:54 ` Greg KH
2018-01-06 18:10 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-06 21:25 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-07 8:20 ` Greg KH
2018-01-06 14:41 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-06 17:33 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-06 17:41 ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-06 19:22 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-06 19:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-06 21:32 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-06 21:34 ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-06 21:41 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-06 21:44 ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-06 21:39 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-06 21:46 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2018-01-06 18:23 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-06 18:20 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-08 15:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-08 15:29 ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-08 17:02 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-08 15:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-08 15:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-08 15:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-09 0:29 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-09 18:05 ` Tim Chen
2018-01-06 2:12 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] x86/idle: Disable IBRS entering idle and enable it on wakeup Tim Chen
2018-01-06 2:12 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] x86/microcode: Recheck IBRS features on microcode reload Tim Chen
2018-01-06 12:09 ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-09 0:34 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-06 2:12 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] x86: Do not use dynamic IBRS if retpoline is enabled Tim Chen
2018-01-06 2:12 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] x86: Use IBRS for firmware update path Tim Chen
2018-01-06 8:55 ` Greg KH
2018-01-06 8:57 ` Greg KH
2018-01-06 6:43 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] IBRS patch series Tim Chen
2018-01-06 12:00 ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-06 12:11 ` Woodhouse, David
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