From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Woodhouse, David" <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com" <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
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"dave.hansen@intel.com" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 11/10] x86/retpoline: Avoid return buffer underflows on context switch II
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 17:21:22 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180109012122.GA18313@tassilo.jf.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180109011602.GH6718@tassilo.jf.intel.com>
On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 05:16:02PM -0800, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > If we clear the registers, what the hell are you going to put in the
> > RSB that helps you?
>
> RSB allows you to control chains of gadgets.
I admit the gadget thing is a bit obscure.
There's another case we were actually more worried about:
On Skylake and Broadwell when the RSB underflows it will fall back to the
indirect branch predictor, which can be poisoned and we try to avoid
using with retpoline. So we try to avoid underflows, and this filling
helps us with that.
Does that make more sense?
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-09 1:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-07 22:11 [PATCH v6 00/10] Retpoline: Avoid speculative indirect calls in kernel David Woodhouse
2018-01-07 22:11 ` [PATCH v6 01/10] x86/retpoline: Add initial retpoline support David Woodhouse
2018-01-08 10:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-08 10:53 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-08 11:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-08 12:45 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-08 13:42 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-08 13:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-08 13:53 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-08 14:26 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-08 21:20 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-09 12:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-09 13:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-09 13:40 ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-07 22:11 ` [PATCH v6 02/10] x86/retpoline/crypto: Convert crypto assembler indirect jumps David Woodhouse
2018-01-08 13:49 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-07 22:11 ` [PATCH v6 03/10] x86/retpoline/entry: Convert entry " David Woodhouse
2018-01-07 22:11 ` [PATCH v6 04/10] x86/retpoline/ftrace: Convert ftrace " David Woodhouse
2018-01-07 22:11 ` [PATCH v6 05/10] x86/retpoline/hyperv: Convert " David Woodhouse
2018-01-07 22:11 ` [PATCH v6 06/10] x86/retpoline/xen: Convert Xen hypercall " David Woodhouse
2018-01-07 22:11 ` [PATCH v6 07/10] x86/retpoline/checksum32: Convert assembler " David Woodhouse
2018-01-07 22:11 ` [PATCH v6 08/10] x86/retpoline/irq32: " David Woodhouse
2018-01-07 22:11 ` [PATCH v6 09/10] x86/retpoline: Add boot time option to disable retpoline David Woodhouse
2018-01-07 22:11 ` [PATCH v6 10/10] x86/retpoline: Exclude objtool with retpoline David Woodhouse
2018-01-08 10:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-08 10:34 ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-08 13:20 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-07 22:22 ` [PATCH v6 00/10] Retpoline: Avoid speculative indirect calls in kernel Linus Torvalds
2018-01-08 10:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-08 17:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-08 21:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-08 10:34 ` Paul Turner
2018-01-08 10:38 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-08 10:45 ` Paul Turner
2018-01-08 10:42 ` Paul Turner
2018-01-08 11:16 ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-08 11:25 ` Paul Turner
2018-01-08 16:13 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-01-10 15:20 ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-10 15:31 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-01-08 10:45 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-08 10:53 ` Paul Turner
2018-01-08 12:49 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-08 23:44 ` [PATCH v6 11/10] x86/retpoline: Avoid return buffer underflows on context switch David Woodhouse
2018-01-08 23:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-08 23:58 ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-09 0:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-09 0:42 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-09 0:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-09 0:55 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-09 0:44 ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-09 0:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-09 1:15 ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-09 3:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-09 13:04 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-09 13:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-09 17:53 ` Kees Cook
2018-01-09 18:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-16 8:58 ` Pavel Machek
2018-01-09 1:16 ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-09 1:21 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2018-01-09 1:23 ` [PATCH v6 11/10] x86/retpoline: Avoid return buffer underflows on context switch II Woodhouse, David
2018-01-09 1:49 ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-09 1:53 ` Paul Turner
2018-01-09 1:18 ` [PATCH v6 11/10] x86/retpoline: Avoid return buffer underflows on context switch Woodhouse, David
2018-01-09 0:06 ` Andi Kleen
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