From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 6/6] x86/entry/pti: don't switch PGD on when pti_disable is set
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:11:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180110091102.GH14066@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180110082207.GX29822@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 09:22:07AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 01:56:20PM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> > - use pti_disable instead of task flag
> > ---
> > arch/x86/entry/calling.h | 5 +++++
> > 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/entry/calling.h b/arch/x86/entry/calling.h
> > index 2c0d3b5..5361a10 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/entry/calling.h
> > +++ b/arch/x86/entry/calling.h
> > @@ -229,6 +229,11 @@
> >
> > .macro SWITCH_TO_USER_CR3_NOSTACK scratch_reg:req scratch_reg2:req
> > ALTERNATIVE "jmp .Lend_\@", "", X86_FEATURE_PTI
> > +
> > + /* The "pti_disable" mm attribute is mirrored into this per-cpu var */
> > + cmpb $0, PER_CPU_VAR(pti_disable)
> > + jne .Lend_\@
> > +
> > mov %cr3, \scratch_reg
>
> So could you switch back to a task flag for this? That word is already
> cache-hot on the exit path while your new variable is not.
That's a good point. There's already been some demands for a per-thread
setting.
What I can propose then is to partially revert the changes to have this :
- arch_prctl() adjusts the task flag and not a per-mm variable anymore
(Linus, are you OK for this ?)
- arch_prctl() only accepts to perform the action if mm->mm_users == 1
so that we don't change the setting after having created threads ;
this way the task flag is replicated to all future threads ;
- later we may decide to permit re-enabling PTI per thread if it was
disabled.
If we agree on this, I'd like to propose to have two flags :
- TIF_DISABLE_PTI_NOW : disable PTI for the current task, reset by execve()
- TIF_DISABLE_PTI_NEXT : disable PTI after execve(), reset by execve()
execve() would then simply do :
TIF_DISABLE_PTI_NOW = TIF_DISABLE_PTI_NEXT;
TIF_DISABLE_PTI_NEXT = 0;
The former would be used by applications using their own configuration.
The latter would be used by wrappers. This way we seem to cover the various
use cases. And we make this depend on a sysctl that allows the admin to
globally and permanently disable the feature and which is disabled by
default.
Any objection ?
Regards,
Willy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-10 9:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-09 12:56 [RFC PATCH v2 0/6] Per process PTI activation Willy Tarreau
2018-01-09 12:56 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/6] x86/mm: add a pti_disable entry in mm_context_t Willy Tarreau
2018-01-09 12:56 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/6] x86/arch_prctl: add ARCH_GET_NOPTI and ARCH_SET_NOPTI to enable/disable PTI Willy Tarreau
2018-01-09 14:17 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-09 14:36 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-09 14:51 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-09 14:54 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-09 21:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-09 21:29 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-09 21:32 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-09 21:46 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-09 22:06 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-09 22:20 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-09 22:29 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-09 22:40 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-10 14:42 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-10 15:39 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-10 16:09 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-10 16:19 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-10 17:28 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-10 7:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-10 7:37 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-10 7:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-09 23:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-10 4:25 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-10 7:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-10 14:45 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-10 15:43 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-10 15:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-09 21:34 ` Kees Cook
2018-01-09 21:41 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-09 21:50 ` Kees Cook
2018-01-09 22:03 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-10 7:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-12 15:03 ` David Laight
2018-01-12 15:06 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-09 12:56 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/6] x86/pti: add a per-cpu variable pti_disable Willy Tarreau
2018-01-10 7:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-10 7:29 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-10 8:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-10 8:50 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-10 8:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-10 9:00 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-09 12:56 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/6] x86/pti: don't mark the user PGD with _PAGE_NX Willy Tarreau
2018-01-09 12:56 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/6] x86/entry/pti: avoid setting CR3 when it's already correct Willy Tarreau
2018-01-10 7:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-10 7:18 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-10 20:29 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-11 6:46 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-09 12:56 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/6] x86/entry/pti: don't switch PGD on when pti_disable is set Willy Tarreau
2018-01-10 7:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-10 7:23 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-10 8:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-10 9:11 ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2018-01-10 19:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-10 19:39 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-10 19:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-10 19:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-10 20:04 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-11 6:42 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-11 15:29 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-11 15:44 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-11 15:51 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-11 17:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-11 18:21 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-01-11 18:30 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-11 18:32 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-11 18:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-11 18:38 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-11 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-11 18:57 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-11 19:05 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-11 19:07 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-11 19:17 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-11 19:19 ` Olivier Galibert
2018-01-11 19:26 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-11 19:34 ` Alan Cox
2018-01-11 21:23 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-11 21:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-11 22:06 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-12 16:37 ` David Laight
2018-01-11 19:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-11 19:38 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-01-11 19:11 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-11 20:00 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-11 17:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-11 17:40 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-11 17:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-11 18:05 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-11 18:15 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-11 18:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-11 18:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-11 18:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-11 19:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-12 20:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-12 21:18 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-12 21:54 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-11 21:59 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-12 16:27 ` David Laight
2018-01-12 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-12 19:36 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-11 18:35 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-11 21:49 ` Willy Tarreau
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2018-01-11 23:11 Alexey Dobriyan
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