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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Dmitry Safonov <dima@arista.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dmitry Safonov <0x7f454c46@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Levin, Alexander (Sasha Levin)" <alexander.levin@verizon.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Radu Rendec <rrendec@arista.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Stanislaw Gruszka <sgruszka@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpeng.li@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/2] softirq: Defer net rx/tx processing to ksoftirqd context
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:41:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180112054110.GA26760@lerouge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1515705222.3039.33.camel@arista.com>

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 09:13:42PM +0000, Dmitry Safonov wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-01-11 at 12:53 -0800, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Dmitry Safonov <dima@arista.com>
> > wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2018-01-11 at 12:40 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Dmitry Safonov <dima@arista.com
> > > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > I could try to write a PoC for that..
> > > > > What should be the trigger to fall into workqueue?
> > > > > How to tell if there're too many softirqs of the kind?
> > > > 
> > > > I suspect it would have to be time-based, probably using the
> > > > scheduler clock.
> > > 
> > > I thought about this, but I was a bit afraid of how much pricey it
> > > would be recalculate it each clock. Well, might just try to write
> > > that
> > > and measure the impact.
> > > 
> > > > Most softirqs are really really small. So just counting them
> > > > probably
> > > > isn't all that meaningful, although the count is good as a
> > > > fallback
> > > > (as shown by the jiffy issues).
> > > > 
> > > > The good news is that we only have a fairly small handful of
> > > > softirqs,
> > > > so counting/timing them separately is still mainly a pretty small
> > > > array (which needs to be percpu, of course).
> > 
> > Note that using (scheduler) clock might also help to break
> > net_rx_action()
> > not on a stupid netdev_budget, but on a more precise time limit as
> > well.
> > 
> > netdev_budget of 300 packets is quite big :/
> > 
> > (The time_limit based on jiffies + 2 does not work on hosts with one
> > cpu, since jiffies wont make progress while net_rx_action() is
> > running)
> 
> Thanks for the details, Eric.
> I'll try to come up with poc if no one beats me at it.

I just gave it a try. Sorry I couldn't resist :-s

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-12  5:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-09 13:36 [RFC 0/2] Net softirq deferring to ksoftirqd Dmitry Safonov
2018-01-09 13:36 ` [RFC 1/2] softirq: Defer net rx/tx processing to ksoftirqd context Dmitry Safonov
2018-01-09 16:03   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-10 21:20     ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-01-09 18:02   ` Eric Dumazet
2018-01-10 21:48     ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-01-11  2:13       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-11  3:22         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-11  4:19           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-11  4:44             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-11 14:31               ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-01-11 16:20                 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-01-11 16:32                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-11 16:38                     ` David Miller
2018-01-11 16:43                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-11 18:48                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-11 19:15                       ` Eric Dumazet
2018-01-11 19:43                         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-11 19:48                           ` Eric Dumazet
2018-01-11 20:03                             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-11 20:16                               ` Eric Dumazet
2018-01-11 20:22                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-11 20:34                                   ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-01-11 20:37                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2018-01-11 20:40                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-11 20:46                                       ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-01-11 20:53                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2018-01-11 21:13                                           ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-01-12  5:41                                             ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2018-01-12  5:23                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2018-01-12 10:13                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-12 17:26                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-12 17:44                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2018-01-12 17:51                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-12 18:15                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2018-01-12 18:44                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2018-01-17 20:30                                                 ` David Miller
2018-01-17 21:06                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-17 21:49                                                     ` David Miller
2018-01-17 21:54                                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-17 21:58                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-17 22:00                                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-17 22:02                                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2018-01-17 22:24                                                               ` David Miller
2018-01-17 22:54                                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-06 16:56                                                                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-02-13 16:36                                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-17 21:54                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-17 21:58                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-12 19:28                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-12 19:53                                               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-12 14:58                                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-12 15:15                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2018-01-12 17:00                                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-12 18:08                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2018-01-12 17:24                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-09 13:36 ` [RFC 2/2] softirq: Introduce mask for __do_softirq() Dmitry Safonov

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