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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, jslaby@suse.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] Revert "do_SAK: Don't recursively take the tasklist_lock"
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 18:34:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180117173415.GA7964@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87shb4floe.fsf@xmission.com>

On 01/17, Eric W. Biederman wrote:

> Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com> writes:
>
> > This reverts commit 20ac94378de5.
> >
> > send_sig() does not take tasklist_lock for a long time,
> > so this commit and the problem it solves are not relevant
> > anymore.
> >
> > Also, the problem of force_sig() is it clears SIGNAL_UNKILLABLE
> > flag, thus even global init may be killed by __do_SAK(),
> > which is definitely not the expected behavior.
>
> Actually it is.
>
> SAK should kill everything that has the tty open.  If init opens the tty
> I am so sorry, it can not operate correctly.  init should not have your
> tty open.

OK, but then we need "force" in other places too. __do_SAK() does send_sig(SIGKILL)
in do_each_pid_task(PIDTYPE_SID) and if signal->tty == tty.

Plus force_sig() is not rcu-friendly.

So I personally agree with this change. Whether we want to kill the global init
or not should be discussed, if we want to do this __do_SAK() should use
SEND_SIG_FORCED and this is what Kirill is going to do (iiuc), but this needs
another patch.

Oleg.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-17 17:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-17 12:39 [PATCH v2 0/3] tty: Make __do_SAK() less greedy in regard to tasklist_lock Kirill Tkhai
2018-01-17 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] Revert "do_SAK: Don't recursively take the tasklist_lock" Kirill Tkhai
2018-01-17 17:18   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-17 17:34     ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2018-01-17 17:49       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-17 18:04         ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-01-17 18:37           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-17 20:43             ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-01-18 10:07         ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-01-18  9:59     ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-01-17 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] tty: Avoid threads files iterations in __do_SAK() Kirill Tkhai
2018-01-17 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] tty: Use RCU read lock to iterate tasks and threads " Kirill Tkhai
2018-01-17 16:54   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-17 17:39     ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-01-18 10:11     ` Kirill Tkhai

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