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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Pavan Kondeti <pkondeti@codeaurora.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Levin Alexander <alexander.levin@verizon.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpeng.li@hotmail.com>,
	Dmitry Safonov <dima@arista.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Radu Rendec <rrendec@arista.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Stanislaw Gruszka <sgruszka@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/4] softirq: Per vector deferment to workqueue
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 17:11:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180121161114.GA2879@lerouge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180120084139.GA8395@codeaurora.org>

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 02:11:39PM +0530, Pavan Kondeti wrote:

Hi Pavan,


> I have couple questions/comments.
> 
> (1) Since the work is queued on a bounded per-cpu worker, we may run
> into a deadlock if a TASKLET is killed from another work running on
> the same bounded per-cpu worker.
> 
> For example,
> 
> (1) Schedule a TASKLET on CPU#0 from IRQ.
> (2) Another IRQ comes on the same CPU and we queue a work to kill
> the TASKLET. 
> (3) The TASKLET vector is deferred to workqueue.
> (4) We run the TASKLET kill work and wait for the TASKLET to finish,
> which won't happen.
> 
> We can fix this by queueing the TASKLET kill work on an unbounded
> workqueue so that this runs in parallel with TASKLET vector work.
> 
> Just wanted to know if we have to be aware of this *condition*.

But IIRC the workqueues have several workers per CPU so the tasklet to
be killed can run while the tasklet killer yields.

> 
> (2) Ksoftirqd thread gets parked when a CPU is hotplugged out. So
> there is a gaurantee that the softirq handling never happens on
> another CPU. Where as a bounded worker gets detached and the queued
> work can run on another CPU. I guess, some special handling is
> needed to handle hotplug.

Good catch. Funny, I worried a bit about CPU hotplug but I assumed
the pending CPU-bound worklets would be simply sync'ed before CPU gets down.

Breaking their CPU-bound properties doesn't look sane to me.

Anyway, I'll need to make a CPU hotplug hook.

Thanks for reporting that!

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-21 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-19 15:46 [RFC PATCH 0/4] softirq: Per vector threading v3 Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-19 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] softirq: Limit vector to a single iteration on IRQ tail Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-19 16:16   ` David Miller
2018-01-19 18:25     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-19 18:47       ` David Miller
2018-01-21 16:30         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-21 16:57           ` David Miller
2018-01-19 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] softirq: Per vector deferment to workqueue Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-20  8:41   ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-01-21 16:11     ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2018-01-21 17:50       ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-01-21 20:48         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-02-08 17:44   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-02-08 18:45     ` David Miller
2018-02-08 20:14       ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-02-08 20:22         ` David Miller
2018-02-08 20:30           ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-02-09  4:11             ` Mike Galbraith
2018-02-09 12:35               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-02-15 16:13     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-02-15 16:58       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-01-19 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] softirq: Defer to workqueue when rescheduling is needed Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-19 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] softirq: Replace ksoftirqd with workqueues entirely Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-22 19:58 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] softirq: Per vector threading v3 Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-01-23 10:13 ` Paolo Abeni
2018-01-23 12:32   ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-01-24  2:12     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-23 16:22   ` David Miller
2018-01-23 16:57     ` Paolo Abeni
2018-01-23 17:42       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-23 18:01         ` Mike Galbraith
2018-01-23 18:24         ` David Miller
2018-01-24  1:57           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-24  2:01             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-24 14:54         ` Paolo Abeni
2018-01-24 15:05           ` David Miller
2018-01-24 16:11             ` Paolo Abeni
2018-02-07 14:18 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-03-01 15:21   ` Frederic Weisbecker

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