From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x2250OvpnPuixz2vXu+EpdDnkOlVmpLUey6nFkbxbfWGZwtTTu9j2dXSvk02tLuO7Vr5RqD2y ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1516719480; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=jxKI0alQeo1tQrIT5CWpzDaup3+cuylmlX89a6Z2EV4wK8MPCmQILqzNUtMHzq+nST Gyth38w7xDoLuXiLmok/iBJ4/1+ogayKCnlG8emsIoeBVV7r7Agyi8gvkqUxu64IcMLu HhhaSst4/6FX8K6ZI8XwQuXIeE38EZP4/4ii0W5kYA/pfbA+vQLOQSE+OSKqAuxe2cQA DtjSB+jiQyUdttqsik0xU1nRVPi8hEaG8SAmxd+Dq60iSlLTSZplCjMaHoO6NhBcNVhG h7NvrBsjsblFDcDekXL4jzGqzqo540VdpJcIIsiSjOypfDUM0QHgu1NoAKdp+df+6nNm xi5Q== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:organization:references :in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date :arc-authentication-results; bh=LhaFw1qDqOCaDhvdJJZqLnldLcAFP/mRmwOQbE6b/0o=; b=EhghTnb3gf86twwMc/+u0pPsTVLOUZ6XEfAVdk6T3qkil8lYGIRThI2DIvfCT7BCcR hltmYDnwqfBCW+v2qTkFB/YYci+sv3Lkf28t6GukexK5yoGMItboFhXmmeRk2dpBXZXg Kol7IN3dWd3rNNb5ZjlflyhdbIlnZMFMgv8sjEIJztieDBh6d7OsH6E3yilBfykSf9iC xwBupBcARv/AZ8FxOmHZ28Uc35PBm3A7agMkdlRAmSJlzPhvO0qJP+JELLaoxNtVFBQt fJY6EFlgyk8kutlYqeLihpPMiEapb3+1zPLlkEhHSroQK6jm3HDePU0/Y2LSBtJXqQVa lWCA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk designates 82.70.14.225 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk designates 82.70.14.225 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 14:57:17 +0000 From: Alan Cox To: Joerg Roedel Cc: Nadav Amit , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , "H . Peter Anvin" , the arch/x86 maintainers , LKML , "open list:MEMORY MANAGEMENT" , Linus Torvalds , Andy Lutomirski , Dave Hansen , Josh Poimboeuf , Juergen Gross , Peter Zijlstra , Borislav Petkov , Jiri Kosina , Boris Ostrovsky , Brian Gerst , David Laight , Denys Vlasenko , Eduardo Valentin , Greg KH , Will Deacon , aliguori@amazon.com, daniel.gruss@iaik.tugraz.at, hughd@google.com, keescook@google.com, Andrea Arcangeli , Waiman Long , jroedel@suse.de Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/16] PTI support for x86-32 Message-ID: <20180123145717.75c84e9a@alans-desktop> In-Reply-To: <20180122085625.GE28161@8bytes.org> References: <1516120619-1159-1-git-send-email-joro@8bytes.org> <5D89F55C-902A-4464-A64E-7157FF55FAD0@gmail.com> <886C924D-668F-4007-98CA-555DB6279E4F@gmail.com> <9CF1DD34-7C66-4F11-856D-B5E896988E16@gmail.com> <20180122085625.GE28161@8bytes.org> Organization: Intel Corporation X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.1-dirty (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-getmail-retrieved-from-mailbox: INBOX X-GMAIL-THRID: =?utf-8?q?1589767841591470697?= X-GMAIL-MSGID: =?utf-8?q?1590395645911121718?= X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 09:56:25 +0100 Joerg Roedel wrote: > Hey Nadav, > > On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 03:46:24PM -0800, Nadav Amit wrote: > > It does seem that segmentation provides sufficient protection from Meltdown. > > Thanks for testing this, if this turns out to be true for all affected > uarchs it would be a great and better way of protection than enabling > PTI. > > But I'd like an official statement from Intel on that one, as their > recommended fix is still to use PTI. > > And as you said, if it turns out that this works only on some Intel > uarchs, we can also detect it at runtime and then chose the fasted > meltdown protection mechanism. I'll follow this up and get an official statement. Alan