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From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad@darnok.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Arjan Van De Ven <arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/8] x86/spec_ctrl: Add sysctl knobs to enable/disable SPEC_CTRL feature
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 08:59:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180127135859.GA25291@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180108161437.GN32035@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 05:14:37PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 01:47:07PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > a good suggestion, but we encountered some issues with it either
> > > crashing the kernel at boot or not properly turning on/off.
> 
> The below boots, but I lack stuff to test the enabling.

..snip..
> --- a/arch/x86/entry/calling.h
> +++ b/arch/x86/entry/calling.h
> @@ -373,22 +373,17 @@ For 32-bit we have the following convent
>  .endm
>  
>  .macro ENABLE_IBRS
> -	testl	$1, dynamic_ibrs
> -	jz	.Lskip_\@
> +	STATIC_JUMP_IF_FALSE .Lskip_\@, ibrs_key, def=0
>  
>  	PUSH_MSR_REGS
>  	WRMSR_ASM $MSR_IA32_SPEC_CTRL, $SPEC_CTRL_FEATURE_ENABLE_IBRS
>  	POP_MSR_REGS
> -	jmp	.Ldone_\@
>  
>  .Lskip_\@:
> -	lfence
> -.Ldone_\@:
>  .endm

I know that this particular patchset is now obsolete as the retpoline
along with stuffing the RSB half or full is the preferred way.

But I am wondering - why was the 'lfence' added in the first place
if dynamic_ibrs was zero?

It certainly is not putting the speculative execution on a wild ride
like: "[tip:x86/pti] x86/retpoline: Use LFENCE instead of PAUSE in the
retpoline/RSB filling RSB macros" https://git.kernel.org/tip/2eb9137c8744f9adf1670e9aa52850948a30112b

So what was the intent behind this? Was it: "oh if we do not have
IBRS let us at least add lfence on  every system call, interrupt, nmi,
exception, etc to do a poor man version of IBRS?"

Thank you.
P.S.
My apologies if this was discussed in the prior versions of this thread.
I must have missed it.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-01-27 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-06  2:12 [PATCH v2 0/8] IBRS patch series Tim Chen
2018-01-06  2:12 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] x86/feature: Detect the x86 IBRS feature to control Speculation Tim Chen
2018-01-06 12:56   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-07 17:14     ` Tim Chen
2018-01-07 18:31       ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-09 18:13     ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-09 18:55       ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-08 16:14   ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-09 10:39   ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-09 17:53     ` Tim Chen
2018-01-09 17:58       ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-09 22:59         ` Tim Chen
2018-01-18 23:28   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-06  2:12 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] x86/enter: MACROS to set/clear IBRS Tim Chen
2018-01-07 12:03   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-07 17:12     ` Tim Chen
2018-01-07 18:44       ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-08 22:24     ` Tim Chen
2018-01-06  2:12 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] x86/enter: Use IBRS on syscall and interrupts Tim Chen
2018-01-07 19:27   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-06  2:12 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] x86/spec_ctrl: Add sysctl knobs to enable/disable SPEC_CTRL feature Tim Chen
2018-01-06  3:12   ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-08 12:47     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-08 16:14       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-08 17:28         ` Tim Chen
2018-01-08 17:42           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-08 19:34             ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-08 19:52               ` Lu, Hongjiu
2018-01-09 10:40             ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-09 17:55               ` Tim Chen
2018-01-09 18:13                 ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-09 20:31                   ` Tim Chen
2018-01-27 13:59         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2018-01-27 14:26           ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-06  8:54   ` Greg KH
2018-01-06 18:10     ` Tim Chen
2018-01-06 21:25       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-07  8:20         ` Greg KH
2018-01-06 14:41   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-06 17:33     ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-06 17:41       ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-06 19:22         ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-06 19:47           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-06 21:32             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-06 21:34               ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-06 21:41                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-06 21:44                   ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-06 21:39               ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-06 21:46                 ` Is: Linus, name for 'spectre' variable. Was:Re: " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-01-06 18:23       ` Tim Chen
2018-01-06 18:20     ` Tim Chen
2018-01-08 15:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-08 15:29     ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-08 17:02       ` Tim Chen
2018-01-08 15:11   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-08 15:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-08 15:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-09  0:29   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-09 18:05     ` Tim Chen
2018-01-06  2:12 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] x86/idle: Disable IBRS entering idle and enable it on wakeup Tim Chen
2018-01-06  2:12 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] x86/microcode: Recheck IBRS features on microcode reload Tim Chen
2018-01-06 12:09   ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-09  0:34   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-06  2:12 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] x86: Do not use dynamic IBRS if retpoline is enabled Tim Chen
2018-01-06  2:12 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] x86: Use IBRS for firmware update path Tim Chen
2018-01-06  8:55   ` Greg KH
2018-01-06  8:57   ` Greg KH
2018-01-06  6:43 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] IBRS patch series Tim Chen
2018-01-06 12:00   ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-06 12:11 ` Woodhouse, David
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-01-08 17:43 [PATCH v2 4/8] x86/spec_ctrl: Add sysctl knobs to enable/disable SPEC_CTRL feature Alexey Dobriyan
2018-01-08 18:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli

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