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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Steven Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>
Cc: subhra mazumdar <subhra.mazumdar@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	dhaval.giani@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [RESEND RFC PATCH V3] sched: Improve scalability of select_idle_sibling using SMT balance
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 20:59:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180202195943.GR2269@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <911d42cf-54c7-4776-c13e-7c11f8ebfd31@oracle.com>

On Fri, Feb 02, 2018 at 11:53:40AM -0500, Steven Sistare wrote:
> On 2/1/2018 7:33 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 03:31:02PM -0800, subhra mazumdar wrote:
> >> +	rcu_read_lock();
> >> +	sd = rcu_dereference(per_cpu(sd_llc, this_cpu));
> >> +	if (util) {
> >> +		for_each_lower_domain(sd) {
> >> +			if (sd->level == 0)
> >> +				break;
> > 
> > afaict you really only need this for the core, and here you're assuming
> > everything below the LLC is cores. Would it not be much clearer if you
> > introduce sd_core.
> > 
> > As is, for_each_lower_domain includes the starting domain, sd->group
> > then is the first core group for this cpu. But then you continue to the
> > smt domain (on Intel, on other architectures there could be a cluster
> > domain in between) and then you bail using that sd->level == 0 hack
> > because otherwise things would go *bang*.
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> The code here and in smt_balance intentionally visits each level between
> the llc and smt, including core-cluster on architectures that define it.
> smt_balance thus has the chance to randomly pick a better cluster,
> and then within that cluster randomly pick a better core.  It makes sense,
> as resources are shared within a cluster, and choosing a less loaded cluster
> should give better performance.  As you suggest in a few other places,
> it would be nice to see performance results for this case.  We have
> SPARC processors with core clusters.
> 

But then you get that atomic crud to contend on the cluster level, which
is even worse than it contending on the core level.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-02-02 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-29 23:31 [RESEND RFC PATCH V3] sched: Improve scalability of select_idle_sibling using SMT balance subhra mazumdar
2018-02-01 12:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-01 13:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-02 16:53   ` Steven Sistare
2018-02-02 17:17     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-02 17:36       ` Steven Sistare
2018-02-02 19:58         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-02 20:51           ` Steven Sistare
2018-02-02 17:37       ` Subhra Mazumdar
2018-02-05 12:19         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-05 22:09           ` Subhra Mazumdar
2018-02-06  9:12             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-07  0:30               ` Subhra Mazumdar
2018-02-07  8:42                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-07 23:10                   ` Subhra Mazumdar
2018-02-02 17:21     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-02 17:39       ` Steven Sistare
2018-02-02 18:34         ` Steven Sistare
2018-02-02 20:04           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-02 21:17             ` Steven Sistare
2018-02-03  3:47           ` Mike Galbraith
2018-02-02 19:59     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2018-02-02 21:06       ` Steven Sistare
2018-02-05 12:48         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-05 13:54           ` Mike Galbraith
2018-02-05 17:03           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-05 22:32             ` Subhra Mazumdar

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