From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x226fa9e9EDJXS0xyogFH5qmzA/oZmPJw4fOHl625JLt8WGIERtSwjlE5Gl9Nz6zYZAuSJ7W5 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1518123202; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=IgxIuZ5Y346HbC0tNt6X93NceDroaDp8rW4vbQUPnni6h6wFjHwyD4jiB7SWT6W8yD Lk+uRwCP09pj2vElYTMLTh73QGwc6WqsayFJ3/GEAfr9Qbg2qd4hrSLFC3N98tpOvJ8A +7CoTS+M/dXQM27Urvyy+cbnRF6+/mgXIT8qufzzOYQPs1ipo/4Qai2TO+ELDxwcllz/ grNdrDmkSCFCcbSYVjy96nHIaZY5kZITrcQRfgDapgWA8+kPF5iBiBE2M/9s50thg1+J iyhjSGJ4p+bsjNbGVthMx7jUpD9I2/uGVM0tCbMdPzeXs+FzWyV3HTQirlcGC3P4nRbF M4ww== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:organization:references :in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date :arc-authentication-results; bh=vFU+wvqnoq98KmSCqxioK2/dMnnU2UYGs+YuRs7jEeI=; b=A8lbF14sVB7Z4+G6Na5/m+fnXjX78jLafVLrTUJn5iIK/Ah6tI39DA8h7l4Nh/m9J5 jM3lnTwF9fPG5/1IfQZ4AqF2H/5n1l+gyA2UV0bz36DNz/DPTnCr70LUaxSeaqnz7HyH Mxv+V63gypUo3WmeUb+dDelNFX/fyslD1OAtm4exNr/7yHnxsk2TRp0J1bBh3TtRSIqj DspT1I026UELRL7oHbAkGsWfa0IRedOHN+upgjVrb5EnvoPFTgZGp1YZueH27d2alnvm AqAXddnz0GIjqBP3nltKbvRFczDSQmWjn6kjY+LI/da9MCIwbVTNe0JVEg6f3i1xwYvR bz+A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk designates 82.70.14.225 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk designates 82.70.14.225 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2018 20:52:40 +0000 From: Alan Cox To: tedheadster Cc: whiteheadm@acm.org, David Laight , Arnd Bergmann , Ondrej Zary , David Woodhouse , Guenter Roeck , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Hugh Dickins , Dave Hansen , Jiri Kosina , Borislav Petkov , Kees Cook , Jamie Iles , Eduardo Valentin , Laura Abbott , Rik van Riel , Thomas Gleixner , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: [BUG] x86 : i486 reporting to be vulnerable to Meltdown/Spectre_V1/Spectre_V2 Message-ID: <20180208205240.0c53631f@alans-desktop> In-Reply-To: References: <1517950494.3677.30.camel@infradead.org> <201802070918.18978.linux@rainbow-software.org> <20180208134908.4b516794@alans-desktop> <63ca28c5acb64de5ba33a81b6da5c507@AcuMS.aculab.com> Organization: Intel Corporation X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.1-dirty (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-getmail-retrieved-from-mailbox: INBOX X-GMAIL-THRID: =?utf-8?q?1591354140743903681?= X-GMAIL-MSGID: =?utf-8?q?1591867555006731843?= X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-ID: > > Also worth nothing that the difference between the cpu and memory > > speeds is much lower - so far fewer instructions could be speculatively > > executed while waiting a cache miss. But they also have more instructions that take a lot of clocks and are easier to stall - eg by doing things like opening and mmapping a framebuffer and then doing a floating point double store to it misaligned. Meltdown we can at least reasonably test but spectre is hard. Alan