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From: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: Claudio Scordino <claudio@evidence.eu.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Todd Kjos <tkjos@android.com>, Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cpufreq: schedutil: rate limits for SCHED_DEADLINE
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2018 11:53:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180209105305.GD12979@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11598161.veS9VGWB8G@aspire.rjw.lan>

Hi,

On 09/02/18 11:36, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Friday, February 9, 2018 9:02:34 AM CET Claudio Scordino wrote:
> > Hi Viresh,
> > 
> > Il 09/02/2018 04:51, Viresh Kumar ha scritto:
> > > On 08-02-18, 18:01, Claudio Scordino wrote:
> > >> When the SCHED_DEADLINE scheduling class increases the CPU utilization,
> > >> we should not wait for the rate limit, otherwise we may miss some deadline.
> > >>
> > >> Tests using rt-app on Exynos5422 have shown reductions of about 10% of deadline
> > >> misses for tasks with low RT periods.
> > >>
> > >> The patch applies on top of the one recently proposed by Peter to drop the
> > >> SCHED_CPUFREQ_* flags.
> > >>
> 
> [cut]
> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Is it possible to (somehow) check here if the DL tasks will miss
> > > deadline if we continue to run at current frequency? And only ignore
> > > rate-limit if that is the case ?

Isn't it always the case? Utilization associated to DL tasks is given by
what the user said it's needed to meet a task deadlines (admission
control). If that task wakes up and we realize that adding its
utilization contribution is going to require a frequency change, we
should _theoretically_ always do it, or it will be too late. Now, user
might have asked for a bit more than what strictly required (this is
usually the case to compensate for discrepancies between theory and real
world, e.g.  hw transition limits), but I don't think there is a way to
know "how much". :/

Thanks,

- Juri

> > 
> > I need to think further about it.
> 
> That would be my approach FWIW.
> 
> Increasing the frequency beyond what is necessary means wasting energy
> in any case.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rafael
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-09 10:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-08 17:01 [PATCH] cpufreq: schedutil: rate limits for SCHED_DEADLINE Claudio Scordino
2018-02-09  3:51 ` Viresh Kumar
2018-02-09  8:02   ` Claudio Scordino
2018-02-09  8:40     ` Viresh Kumar
2018-02-09 10:36     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-02-09 10:53       ` Juri Lelli [this message]
2018-02-09 11:04         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-02-09 11:26           ` Juri Lelli
2018-02-09 11:37             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-02-09 11:51               ` Juri Lelli
2018-02-09 12:08                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-02-09 12:52                   ` Juri Lelli
2018-02-09 12:56                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-02-09 13:20                       ` Claudio Scordino
2018-02-09 13:25                       ` Juri Lelli
2018-02-09 11:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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