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From: James Hogan <jhogan@kernel.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Richard Kuo <rkuo@codeaurora.org>,
	linux-hexagon@vger.kernel.org, Chen Liqin <liqin.linux@gmail.com>,
	Lennox Wu <lennox.wu@gmail.com>,
	Guan Xuetao <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-metag@vger.kernel.org, Jonas Bonn <jonas@southpole.se>,
	Stefan Kristiansson <stefan.kristiansson@saunalahti.fi>,
	Stafford Horne <shorne@gmail.com>,
	openrisc@lists.librecores.org,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Removing architectures without upstream gcc support
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 16:28:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180222162845.GC9891@saruman> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a2-6YwRR3j7J78fVHSvDpq8Kf4wRj6d9mnGgAxgkYypxg@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi Arnd,

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 04:45:06PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> * Meta was ImgTec's own architecture and they upstreamed the kernel
>   port just before they acquired MIPS. Apparently Meta was abandoned
>   shortly afterwards and disappeared from imgtec's website in 2014.
>   The maintainer is still fixing bugs in the port, but I could not find
>   any toolchain more recent than
>   https://github.com/img-meta/metag-buildroot/tree/metag-core/toolchain/gcc/4.2.4
>   Not sure about this one, I'd be interested in more background
>   from James Hogan, who probably has an opinion and might have
>   newer toolchain sources.

Interesting timing! Have you seen this (which I'll send for 4.17, and
leave 4.16 broken)?

https://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=151925667323732&w=2

The Meta port is essentially unused and for a while I have only looked
at it when something went wrong. PURE's Linux based digital radios I
believe were never updated to 3.10. The fact that the GCC port wasn't
upstreamed before the MIPS acquisition meant it was always a ticking
time bomb (though binutils was upstreamed).

Sad really, given that at least 9 years of effort went into the port
before permission was finally given to upstream it, and within a week or
so of the first patchset the intention to acquire MIPS was announced.

FWIW, my experience was that upstreaming the port caught a whole lot of
issues (Al Viro's review of signal handling alone was tremendously
valuable), and drastically reduced the effort required to forward port
to each new kernel version. Updating an out of tree arch tends to result
in a lot of runtime failures that require digging, which reduced
drastically once the port was upstreamed.

Cheers
James

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-02-22 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-22 15:45 Removing architectures without upstream gcc support Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-22 16:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-02-22 16:19   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-22 17:14   ` Max Filippov
2018-02-22 18:04     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-02-23 11:37       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-28  8:59         ` Florian Weimer
2018-02-22 16:07 ` Lennox Wu
2018-02-22 16:28 ` James Hogan [this message]
2018-02-22 16:34   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-22 19:17 ` Richard Kuo
2018-02-22 22:43   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-23 17:15     ` Richard Kuo
2018-02-28  2:06     ` Richard Kuo
2018-02-28  8:37       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-03-03  1:43         ` Richard Kuo
2018-02-22 23:48 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-02-23 10:32   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-23 12:09     ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-02-23 12:20       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-23 14:32     ` Guenter Roeck
2018-02-23 15:43     ` Alan Cox
2018-02-23 17:10       ` Guenter Roeck
2018-02-23 18:19         ` Al Viro
2018-02-23 19:32           ` James Bottomley
2018-02-23 21:34             ` Adam Borowski
2018-02-24  4:04               ` Guenter Roeck
2018-02-24 21:55             ` Guenter Roeck
2018-02-25 19:39           ` [OpenRISC] " Richard Henderson
2018-02-23 23:49         ` Greg Ungerer
2018-02-25 20:28         ` Alan Cox
2018-02-25 22:50           ` Pavel Machek
2018-02-24  0:15 ` Florian Fainelli
2018-02-26  8:26   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-26 22:11     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-25 15:43 ` [OpenRISC] " Philipp Wagner
2018-02-26  8:00   ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-26 12:10     ` Philipp Wagner
2018-02-26 15:24       ` whitequark
2018-03-09 14:00 ` Xuetao Guan
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-03-09 14:18 Guan Xuetao
2018-03-09 14:33 ` Arnd Bergmann

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