From: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>
To: Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>
Cc: Rasmus Villemoes <rasmus.villemoes@prevas.dk>,
Igor Plyatov <plyatov@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
rtc-linux@googlegroups.com, util-linux@vger.kernel.org,
J William Piggott <elseifthen@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: 500 ms delay in time saved into RTC
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2018 01:34:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180225003458.GB19904@piout.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180219110328.n7yjorinjm3xxckr@ws.net.home>
Hi,
On 19/02/2018 at 12:03:28 +0100, Karel Zak wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 08:11:05AM +0100, Rasmus Villemoes wrote:
> > It's because util-linux's hwclock still assumes the world is x86. See
> > this comment in the util-linux source code:
> >
> > /*
> > * The Hardware Clock can only be set to any integer time plus one
> > * half second. The integer time is required because there is no
> > * interface to set or get a fractional second. The additional half
> > * second is because the Hardware Clock updates to the following
> > * second precisely 500 ms (not 1 second!) after you release the
> > * divider reset (after setting the new time) - see description of
> > * DV2, DV1, DV0 in Register A in the MC146818A data sheet (and note
> >
> > So if hwclock is asked to --systohc at time 01:02:03.x, it waits until
> > the time is 01:02:03.5 to set the rtc to 01:02:03, or if that has
> > already passed, waits until 01:02:04.5 and sets it to 01:02:04.
> >
> > On our ARM BSP we patch util-linux to have the "implicit fractional
> > part" configurable, and trying to upstream something like that has been
> > on my todo-list for quite a while. See
> >
> > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/oe-lite/base/master/recipes/util-linux/util-linux-2.29/hwclock-tweak-delay.patch
> >
> > for the patch we currently use (on top of that, we change the 0.5
> > initializer to 0.0 to avoid having to always pass the --delay argument).
> > Incidentally, it seems we're on the same util-linux version, so you
> > should be able to try out that patch and see if it works for you.
>
> Would be possible to somehow detect what is the right default setting for
> --delay? I mean for example detect architecture / clock HW, etc.
>
> I have no problem with --delay, but it's tuning for advanced users and
> HW specific stuff. It would be nice to have something more portable.
>
This is what I'm using to synchronize the RTC to the system time:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/abelloni/rtc-tools.git/tree/rtc-sync.c
With sane RTCs, it manages to do so with a good precision, 10µs on a
pcf85363 connected to a sama5d4 xplained, 96µs on my PC.
It can still be improved and doesn't handle RTCs in localtime.
I'm planning to integrate that in hwclock at some point i(hopefully
soon) but I didn't have the time to dive too much in the code yet.
--
Alexandre Belloni, Bootlin (formerly Free Electrons)
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com
prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-02-25 0:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-02-19 6:40 500 ms delay in time saved into RTC Igor Plyatov
2018-02-19 7:11 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2018-02-19 9:16 ` Igor Plyatov
2018-02-19 10:07 ` Alexandre Belloni
2018-02-19 10:37 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2018-02-19 11:03 ` Karel Zak
2018-02-19 11:31 ` Igor Plyatov
2018-02-25 0:34 ` Alexandre Belloni [this message]
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