From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
LKMM Maintainers -- Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Jade Alglave <j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>,
Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@inria.fr>,
Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2 v2 RFC] tools/memory-model: redefine rb in terms of rcu-fence
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 10:37:58 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180301183758.GA31761@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180301174906.GC3777@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 09:49:06AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 10:49:05AM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, Boqun Feng wrote:
> >
> > > > +let rec rcu-fence = gp |
> > > > + (gp ; rcu-link ; rscs) |
> > > > + (rscs ; rcu-link ; gp) |
> > > > + (gp ; rcu-link ; rcu-fence ; rcu-link ; rscs) |
> > > > + (rscs ; rcu-link ; rcu-fence ; rcu-link ; gp) |
> > > > + (rcu-fence ; rcu-link ; rcu-fence)
> > > > +
> > > > +(* rb orders instructions just as pb does *)
> > > > +let rb = prop ; rcu-fence ; hb* ; pb*
> > > >
> > > > irreflexive rb as rcu
> > >
> > > I wonder whether we can simplify things as:
> > >
> > > let rec rcu-fence =
> > > (gp; rcu-link; rscs) |
> > > (rscs; rcu-link; gp) |
> > > (gp; rcu-link; rcu-fence; rcu-link; rscs) |
> > > (rscs; rcu-link; rcu-fence; rcu-link; gp)
> > >
> > > (* gp and rcu-fence; rcu-link; rcu-fence removed *)
> > >
> > > let rb = prop; rcu-fence; hb*; pb*
> > >
> > > acycle rb as rcu
> > >
> > > In this way, "rcu-fence" is defined as "any sequence containing as many
> > > grace periods as RCU read-side critical sections (joined by rcu-link)."
> > > Note that "rcu-link" contains "gp", so we don't miss the case where
> > > there are more grace periods. And since we use "acycle" now, so we don't
> > > need "rcu-fence; rcu-link; rcu-fence" to build "rcu-fence" recursively.
> >
> > Would this definition of rcu-fence work for a sequence such as (leaving
> > out the intermediate rcu-link parts):
> >
> > gp gp gp rscs rscs gp rscs rscs
> >
> > ? I don't think it would. Yes, if you had a cycle of that form then
> > your "rcu" axiom would detect it, but at some point we might want to
> > use rcu-fence for some other purpose, one that doesn't involve cycles.
>
> Let's see, that would map to this:
>
> auto/RW-G+RW-G+RW-G+RW-R+RW-R+RW-G+RW-R+RW-R.litmus
>
> And no, there is no such automatically generated litmus test. Let's
> try reversing the "gp" and "rscs", which should have the same effect
> courtesy of symmetry:
>
> auto/RW-R+RW-R+RW-R+RW-G+RW-G+RW-R+RW-G+RW-G.litmus
>
> And that one doesn't exist, either. So much for random test generation! :-/
>
> Clearly time to add them. And here is what herd has to say about them:
>
> l$ sh scripts/checklitmus.sh /tmp/auto/C-RW-G+RW-G+RW-G+RW-R+RW-R+RW-G+RW-R+RW-R.litmus
> Herd options: -conf linux-kernel.cfg
> Observation /tmp/auto/C-RW-G+RW-G+RW-G+RW-R+RW-R+RW-G+RW-R+RW-R Sometimes 1 255
> ^^^ Unexpected non-Never verification
> 0inputs+32outputs (0major+2605minor)pagefaults 0swaps
> $ sh scripts/checklitmus.sh /tmp/auto/C-RW-R+RW-R+RW-R+RW-G+RW-G+RW-R+RW-G+RW-G.litmus
> Herd options: -conf linux-kernel.cfg
> Observation /tmp/auto/C-RW-R+RW-R+RW-R+RW-G+RW-G+RW-R+RW-G+RW-G Sometimes 1 255
> ^^^ Unexpected non-Never verification
> 0inputs+32outputs (0major+2620minor)pagefaults 0swaps
>
> In other words, they are in fact misclassified as "Sometimes" when they
> should be "Never". I have my diffs below in case I misapplied Boqun's
> change.
>
> With Alan's original formulation, these two litmus tests are correctly
> handled:
>
> $ sh scripts/checklitmus.sh /tmp/auto/C-RW-G+RW-G+RW-G+RW-R+RW-R+RW-G+RW-R+RW-R.litmus
> Herd options: -conf linux-kernel.cfg
> Observation /tmp/auto/C-RW-G+RW-G+RW-G+RW-R+RW-R+RW-G+RW-R+RW-R Never 0 255
> 1.61user 0.00system 0:01.63elapsed 98%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 9572maxresident)k
> $ sh scripts/checklitmus.sh /tmp/auto/C-RW-R+RW-R+RW-R+RW-G+RW-G+RW-R+RW-G+RW-G.litmus
> Herd options: -conf linux-kernel.cfg
> Observation /tmp/auto/C-RW-R+RW-R+RW-R+RW-G+RW-G+RW-R+RW-G+RW-G Never 0 255
> 1.84user 0.01system 0:01.92elapsed 96%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 10112maxresident)k
And as Andrea pointed out off-list, I did indeed mess up Boqun's change.
I forgot to change the "irreflexive" into "acyclic". Applying that change
makes everything work.
Please accept my apologies for my confusion!
Thanx, Paul
> > > I prefer this because we already treat "gp" as "strong-fence", which
> > > already is a "rcu-link".
> >
> > That's a good point; it had not occurred to me.
>
> And if I remove the "gp" but leave the last line, it does properly
> classify the two new litmus tests.
>
> Thanx, Paul
>
> > > Also, recurisively extending rcu-fence with
> > > itself is exactly calculating the transitive closure, which we can avoid
> > > by using a "acycle" rule. Besides, it looks more consistent with hb and
> > > pb.
> >
> > That _had_ occurred to me. But I couldn't see any way to do it while
> > still defining rcu-fence correctly.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> diff --git a/tools/memory-model/linux-kernel.cat b/tools/memory-model/linux-kernel.cat
> index 1e5c4653dd12..75d3c225146c 100644
> --- a/tools/memory-model/linux-kernel.cat
> +++ b/tools/memory-model/linux-kernel.cat
> @@ -106,12 +106,11 @@ let rcu-link = hb* ; pb* ; prop
> * Any sequence containing at least as many grace periods as RCU read-side
> * critical sections (joined by rcu-link) acts as a generalized strong fence.
> *)
> -let rec rcu-fence = gp |
> +let rec rcu-fence =
> (gp ; rcu-link ; rscs) |
> (rscs ; rcu-link ; gp) |
> (gp ; rcu-link ; rcu-fence ; rcu-link ; rscs) |
> - (rscs ; rcu-link ; rcu-fence ; rcu-link ; gp) |
> - (rcu-fence ; rcu-link ; rcu-fence)
> + (rscs ; rcu-link ; rcu-fence ; rcu-link ; gp)
>
> (* rb orders instructions just as pb does *)
> let rb = prop ; rcu-fence ; hb* ; pb*
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-03-01 18:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-02-28 20:13 [PATCH 2/2 v2 RFC] tools/memory-model: redefine rb in terms of rcu-fence Alan Stern
2018-03-01 1:55 ` Boqun Feng
2018-03-01 4:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-03-01 8:39 ` Boqun Feng
2018-03-01 14:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-03-01 15:49 ` Alan Stern
2018-03-01 17:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-03-01 18:37 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2018-03-02 4:31 ` Boqun Feng
2018-03-02 4:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-03-02 15:17 ` Alan Stern
2018-03-02 17:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-03-13 13:56 ` Andrea Parri
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