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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, acme@kernel.org,
	alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com, jolsa@redhat.com,
	namhyung@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, mhiramat@kernel.org,
	ananth@linux.vnet.ibm.com, naveen.n.rao@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com, oleg@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 3/4] trace_uprobe: Support SDT markers having semaphore
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 09:57:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180307085705.GL25181@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3a0f9efd-158e-08ba-ae01-38391f580133@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 02:16:13PM +0530, Ravi Bangoria wrote:
> > W.T.H. is that called a semaphore? afaict its just a usage-counter.
> 
> I totally agree with you. But it's not me who named it semaphore :)
> 
> Please refer to "Semaphore Handling" section at:
> https://sourceware.org/systemtap/wiki/UserSpaceProbeImplementation
> 
> We can surly name it differently in the kernel code and document it
> properly in the Documents/tracing/

Yes, just because the SDT people failed their CS101 class doesn't mean
we need to perpetuate that failure. Please name it sensibly in our code.

> > Also, would it not be much better to do userspace jump-labels for this?
> > That completely avoids the dynamic branch at the SDT site.
> >
> 
> Userspace jump-label is a good idea but...
> 
> Semaphore logic has already became a kinda ABI now. Tools like bcc,
> gdb, systemtap etc. flip the semaphore while probing the marker.

*groan*.. maybe suggest it for the next version; it appears we're
already at SDTv3, so surely there will be a v4 too.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-07  8:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-28  7:53 [RFC 0/4] trace_uprobe: Support SDT markers having semaphore Ravi Bangoria
2018-02-28  7:53 ` [RFC 1/4] Uprobe: Rename map_info to uprobe_map_info Ravi Bangoria
2018-02-28 12:09   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2018-03-01  5:11     ` Ravi Bangoria
2018-02-28  7:53 ` [RFC 2/4] Uprobe: Export few functions / data structures Ravi Bangoria
2018-02-28 12:24   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2018-03-01  5:25     ` Ravi Bangoria
2018-02-28  7:53 ` [RFC 3/4] trace_uprobe: Support SDT markers having semaphore Ravi Bangoria
2018-03-01 14:07   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-03-02  3:54     ` Ravi Bangoria
2018-03-06 11:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-07  8:46     ` Ravi Bangoria
2018-03-07  8:57       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2018-02-28  7:53 ` [RFC 4/4] trace_uprobe: Fix multiple update of same semaphores Ravi Bangoria
2018-02-28 12:06 ` [RFC 0/4] trace_uprobe: Support SDT markers having semaphore Srikar Dronamraju
2018-03-01  5:10   ` Ravi Bangoria
2018-02-28 14:25 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-03-01  5:32   ` Ravi Bangoria

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