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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: "Maciej S. Szmigiero" <mail@maciej.szmigiero.name>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/microcode/AMD: check microcode file sanity before loading it
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2018 17:46:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180310164654.GD8261@pd.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f61522e6-fa15-0fc1-feef-6e0c84d6fc80@maciej.szmigiero.name>

On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 05:16:40PM +0100, Maciej S. Szmigiero wrote:
> To make sure that it is clear what this patch is about:

I know what you're trying to do but it seems you don't want to listen.
So let me try one last time to clear your confusion.

> It *isn't* about verifying the actual microcode update, that is, the
> blob that gets sent to the CPU as the new microcode.
> Such verification is (hopefully) done by the CPU itself.

Yes, it is done by the CPU. Microcode is encrypted.

> There is no container file at all for family 17h (Zen) so
> distributions like OpenSUSE that include this file must have gotten it
> from some other source

Or maybe they've gotten it from AMD directly. Don't you think that
getting microcode from the CPU vendor directly is the logical thing?

> That's why to get things like IBPB it is sometimes necessary to use
> a newer microcode version than included in linux-firmware, sourced for
> example from a BIOS update.

linux-firmware will get F17h microcode soon.

> Since BIOS updates contain only actual (raw) microcode updates one
> has to place it in a microcode container file so this driver can parse
> it.
> 
> As far I know there is no tool to automate this work so one has to
> manually tweak the container metadata.

Let me get this straight: am I reading this correctly that you've tried
to carve out the F17h microcode from a BIOS update blob and you're
trying to load that?!?

If so, you could've simply taken a distro microcode package and used
F17h microcode from there - they are all the same.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

Good mailing practices for 400: avoid top-posting and trim the reply.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-10 16:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-10  0:34 [PATCH] x86/microcode/AMD: check microcode file sanity before loading it Maciej S. Szmigiero
2018-03-10  9:18 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-03-10 12:26   ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2018-03-10 13:12     ` Borislav Petkov
2018-03-10 13:26       ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2018-03-10 16:16 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2018-03-10 16:46   ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2018-03-10 17:26     ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2018-03-11  9:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-03-11 13:25   ` Maciej S. Szmigiero

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