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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
Cc: kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, gorcunov@openvz.org,
	luto@amacapital.net, keescook@chromium.org, willy@infradead.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, tglx@linutronix.de, bp@suse.de,
	andy.shevchenko@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	hpa@zytor.com, mingo@kernel.org, ebiederm@xmission.com,
	jgross@suse.com, linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [tip:x86/mm] x86/boot/compressed/64: Describe the logic behind the LA57 check
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 14:10:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180312131055.GH4064@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180312124337.vw7bchm6brfzghfa@node.shutemov.name>

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 03:43:37PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 01:40:27PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 02:27:58AM -0700, tip-bot for Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * Check if LA57 is desired and supported.
> > > +	 *
> > > +	 * There are two parts to the check:
> > > +	 *   - if the kernel supports 5-level paging: CONFIG_X86_5LEVEL=y
> > > +	 *   - if the machine supports 5-level paging:
> > > +	 *     + CPUID leaf 7 is supported
> > > +	 *     + the leaf has the feature bit set
> > > +	 *
> > > +	 * That's substitute for boot_cpu_has() in early boot code.
> > > +	 */
> > > +	if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_X86_5LEVEL) &&
> > > +			native_cpuid_eax(0) >= 7 &&
> > > +			(native_cpuid_ecx(7) & (1 << (X86_FEATURE_LA57 & 31)))) {
> > >  		paging_config.l5_required = 1;
> > > +	}
> > 
> > Should this not also include something like: machine actually has
> > suffient memory for it to make sense to use l5 ?
> 
> Define "suffient". :)
> 
> The amount of physical memory is not the only reason to have 5-level
> paging enabled. You may need 5-level paging to get access to wider virtual
> address space to map something not backed by local physical memory
> (consider RDMA).

Special needs can always use special knobs :-) But I was thinking
something like >2/3 46 bits or so switching to 5L. My main concern is
the increased worst case TLB miss cost on machines that really don't
need 5L paging (like my desktop, which I suspect will not exceed the
multi terabyte of memory class for a while yet).

We can of course bike shed / benchmark this once my desktop refresh
sports this feature, but ISTR this being one of the very first things
Ingo mentioned when we started this whole 5L thing.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-12 13:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-26 18:04 [PATCH 0/5] x86/boot/compressed/64: Prepare trampoline memory Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-02-26 18:04 ` [PATCH 1/5] x86/boot/compressed/64: Describe the logic behind LA57 check Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-03-12  9:27   ` [tip:x86/mm] x86/boot/compressed/64: Describe the logic behind the " tip-bot for Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-03-12 12:40     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-12 12:43       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-03-12 13:10         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2018-03-12 14:04           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-03-12 14:32             ` Ingo Molnar
2018-03-12 14:50               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-03-12 16:42                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-12 17:06                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-03-12 17:12                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-12 17:41                       ` Ingo Molnar
2018-03-12 17:21                     ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-12 14:52               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2018-02-26 18:04 ` [PATCH 2/5] x86/boot/compressed/64: Find a place for 32-bit trampoline Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-02-26 22:30   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-02-27  8:14     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-03-12  9:28   ` [tip:x86/mm] " tip-bot for Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-02-26 18:04 ` [PATCH 3/5] x86/boot/compressed/64: Save and restore trampoline memory Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-03-12  9:29   ` [tip:x86/mm] " tip-bot for Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-02-26 18:04 ` [PATCH 4/5] x86/boot/compressed/64: Set up " Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-03-12  9:29   ` [tip:x86/mm] " tip-bot for Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-02-26 18:04 ` [PATCH 5/5] x86/boot/compressed/64: Prepare new top-level page table for trampoline Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-03-12  9:30   ` [tip:x86/mm] " tip-bot for Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-02-26 19:32 ` [PATCH 0/5] x86/boot/compressed/64: Prepare trampoline memory Borislav Petkov
2018-02-26 20:55   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-02-27  9:32     ` Borislav Petkov

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