From: Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>
To: 焦晓冬 <milestonejxd@gmail.com>
Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
will.deacon@arm.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
npiggin@gmail.com, mingo@kernel.org, mpe@ellerman.id.au,
oleg@redhat.com, benh@kernel.crashing.org,
Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: smp_mb__after_spinlock requirement too strong?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 14:24:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180312132427.GA11222@andrea> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJDTihxxhy7zmhTJ-ky4wvMby_o9y8UOcs9R1dABN7NccekAiQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Trol,
[...]
> But this is just one special case that acquire-release chains promise us.
>
> A=B=0 as initial
>
> CPU0 CPU1 CPU2 CPU3
> write A=1
> read A=1
> write B=1
> release X
> acquire X
> read A=?
> release Y
>
> acquire Y
>
> read B=?
>
> assurance 1: CPU3 will surely see B=1 writing by CPU1, and
> assurance 2: CPU2 will also see A=1 writing by CPU0 as a special case
>
> The second assurance is both in theory and implemented by real hardware.
>
> As for theory, the C++11 memory model, which is a potential formal model
> for kernel memory model as
> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2017/p0124r4.html
> descripes, states that:
>
> If a value computation A of an atomic object M happens before a value
> computation B of M, and A takes its value from a side effect X on M, then
> the value computed by B shall either be the value stored by X or the value
> stored by a side effect Y on M, where Y follows X in the modification
> order of M.
A formal memory consistency model for the Linux kernel is now available at:
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/paulmck/linux-rcu.git lkmm
Commit
1c27b644c0fdbc61e113b8faee14baeb8df32486
("Automate memory-barriers.txt; provide Linux-kernel memory model")
provides some information (and references) on the development of this work.
---
You can check the above observation against this model: unless I mis-typed
your snippet,
andrea@andrea:~/linux-rcu/tools/memory-model$ cat trol0.litmus
C trol0
{}
P0(int *a)
{
WRITE_ONCE(*a, 1);
}
P1(int *a, int *b, int *x)
{
int r0;
r0 = READ_ONCE(*a);
WRITE_ONCE(*b, 1);
smp_store_release(x, 1);
}
P2(int *a, int *x, int *y)
{
int r0;
int r1;
r0 = smp_load_acquire(x);
r1 = READ_ONCE(*a);
smp_store_release(y, 1);
}
P3(int *b, int *y)
{
int r0;
int r1;
r0 = smp_load_acquire(y);
r1 = READ_ONCE(*b);
}
exists (1:r0=1 /\ 2:r0=1 /\ 3:r0=1 /\ (2:r1=0 \/ 3:r1=0))
andrea@andrea:~/linux-rcu/tools/memory-model$ herd7 -conf linux-kernel.cfg trol0.litmus
Test trol0 Allowed
States 25
1:r0=0; 2:r0=0; 2:r1=0; 3:r0=0; 3:r1=0;
1:r0=0; 2:r0=0; 2:r1=0; 3:r0=0; 3:r1=1;
1:r0=0; 2:r0=0; 2:r1=0; 3:r0=1; 3:r1=0;
1:r0=0; 2:r0=0; 2:r1=0; 3:r0=1; 3:r1=1;
1:r0=0; 2:r0=0; 2:r1=1; 3:r0=0; 3:r1=0;
1:r0=0; 2:r0=0; 2:r1=1; 3:r0=0; 3:r1=1;
1:r0=0; 2:r0=0; 2:r1=1; 3:r0=1; 3:r1=0;
1:r0=0; 2:r0=0; 2:r1=1; 3:r0=1; 3:r1=1;
1:r0=0; 2:r0=1; 2:r1=0; 3:r0=0; 3:r1=0;
1:r0=0; 2:r0=1; 2:r1=0; 3:r0=0; 3:r1=1;
1:r0=0; 2:r0=1; 2:r1=0; 3:r0=1; 3:r1=1;
1:r0=0; 2:r0=1; 2:r1=1; 3:r0=0; 3:r1=0;
1:r0=0; 2:r0=1; 2:r1=1; 3:r0=0; 3:r1=1;
1:r0=0; 2:r0=1; 2:r1=1; 3:r0=1; 3:r1=1;
1:r0=1; 2:r0=0; 2:r1=0; 3:r0=0; 3:r1=0;
1:r0=1; 2:r0=0; 2:r1=0; 3:r0=0; 3:r1=1;
1:r0=1; 2:r0=0; 2:r1=0; 3:r0=1; 3:r1=0;
1:r0=1; 2:r0=0; 2:r1=0; 3:r0=1; 3:r1=1;
1:r0=1; 2:r0=0; 2:r1=1; 3:r0=0; 3:r1=0;
1:r0=1; 2:r0=0; 2:r1=1; 3:r0=0; 3:r1=1;
1:r0=1; 2:r0=0; 2:r1=1; 3:r0=1; 3:r1=0;
1:r0=1; 2:r0=0; 2:r1=1; 3:r0=1; 3:r1=1;
1:r0=1; 2:r0=1; 2:r1=1; 3:r0=0; 3:r1=0;
1:r0=1; 2:r0=1; 2:r1=1; 3:r0=0; 3:r1=1;
1:r0=1; 2:r0=1; 2:r1=1; 3:r0=1; 3:r1=1;
No
Witnesses
Positive: 0 Negative: 25
Condition exists (1:r0=1 /\ 2:r0=1 /\ 3:r0=1 /\ (2:r1=0 \/ 3:r1=0))
Observation trol0 Never 0 25
Time trol0 0.03
Hash=21369772c98e442dd382bd84b43067ee
Please see "tools/memory-model/README" or "tools/memory-model/Documentation/"
for further information about these tools/model.
Best,
Andrea
>
> at
> $1.10 rule 18, on page 14
> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2014/n4296.pdf
>
> As for real hardware, Luc provided detailed test and explanation on
> ARM and POWER in 5.1 Cumulative Barriers for WRC on page 19
> in this paper:
>
> A Tutorial Introduction to the ARM and POWER Relaxed Memory Models
> https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~pes20/ppc-supplemental/test7.pdf
>
> So, I think we may remove RCsc from smp_mb__after_spinlock which is
> really confusing.
>
> Best Regards,
> Trol
>
> >
> >> And for stopped tasks,
> >>
> >> CPU0 CPU1 CPU2
> >>
> >> <ACCESS before schedule out A>
> >>
> >> lock(rq0)
> >> schedule out A
> >> remove A from rq0
> >> store-release(A->on_cpu)
> >> unock(rq0)
> >>
> >> load_acquire(A->on_cpu)
> >> set_task_cpu(A, 2)
> >>
> >> lock(rq2)
> >> add A into rq2
> >> unlock(rq2)
> >>
> >> lock(rq2)
> >> schedule in A
> >> unlock(rq2)
> >>
> >> <ACCESS after schedule in A>
> >>
> >> <ACCESS before schedule out A> happens-before
> >> store-release(A->on_cpu) happens-before
> >> load_acquire(A->on_cpu) happens-before
> >> unlock(rq2) happens-before
> >> lock(rq2) happens-before
> >> <ACCESS after schedule in A>
> >>
> >> So, I think the only requirement to smp_mb__after_spinlock is
> >> to guarantee a STORE before the spin_lock() is ordered
> >> against a LOAD after it. So we could remove the RCsc requirement
> >> to allow more efficient implementation.
> >>
> >> Did I miss something or this RCsc requirement does not really matter?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-03-12 13:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-03-11 7:55 smp_mb__after_spinlock requirement too strong? 焦晓冬
2018-03-12 5:44 ` Boqun Feng
2018-03-12 8:18 ` 焦晓冬
2018-03-12 8:56 ` Boqun Feng
2018-03-12 8:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-12 9:13 ` 焦晓冬
2018-03-12 13:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-12 13:24 ` Andrea Parri [this message]
2018-03-12 14:10 ` 焦晓冬
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