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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, hannes@cmpxchg.org, mhocko@kernel.org,
	vdavydov.dev@gmail.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, pombredanne@nexb.com,
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	longman@redhat.com, minchan@kernel.org, hillf.zj@alibaba-inc.com,
	ying.huang@intel.com, mgorman@techsingularity.net,
	shakeelb@google.com, jbacik@fb.com, linux@roeck-us.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/10] mm: Assign memcg-aware shrinkers bitmap to memcg
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 08:26:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180321152647.GB4780@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eda62454-5788-4f65-c2b5-719d4a98cb2a@virtuozzo.com>

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 06:12:17PM +0300, Kirill Tkhai wrote:
> On 21.03.2018 17:56, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > Why use your own bitmap here?  Why not use an IDA which can grow and
> > shrink automatically without you needing to play fun games with RCU?
> 
> Bitmap allows to use unlocked set_bit()/clear_bit() to maintain the map
> of not empty shrinkers.
> 
> So, the reason to use IDR here is to save bitmap memory? Does this mean
> IDA works fast with sparse identifiers? It seems they require per-memcg
> lock to call IDR primitives. I just don't have information about this.
> 
> If so, which IDA primitive can be used to set particular id in bitmap?
> There is idr_alloc_cyclic(idr, NULL, id, id+1, GFP_KERNEL) only I see
> to do that.

You're confusing IDR and IDA in your email, which is unfortunate.

You can set a bit in an IDA by calling ida_simple_get(ida, n, n, GFP_FOO);
You clear it by calling ida_simple_remove(ida, n);

The identifiers aren't going to be all that sparse; after all you're
allocating them from a global IDA.  Up to 62 identifiers will allocate
no memory; 63-1024 identifiers will allocate a single 128 byte chunk.
Between 1025 and 65536 identifiers, you'll allocate a 576-byte chunk
and then 128-byte chunks for each block of 1024 identifiers (*).  One of
the big wins with the IDA is that it will shrink again after being used.
I didn't read all the way through your patchset to see if you bother to
shrink your bitmap after it's no longer used, but most resizing bitmaps
we have in the kernel don't bother with that part.

(*) Actually it's more complex than that... between 1025 and 1086,
you'll have a 576 byte chunk, a 128-byte chunk and then use 62 bits of
the next pointer before allocating a 128 byte chunk when reaching ID
1087.  Similar things happen for the 62 bits after 2048, 3076 and so on.
The individual chunks aren't shrunk until they're empty so if you set ID
1025 and then ID 1100, then clear ID 1100, the 128-byte chunk will remain
allocated until ID 1025 is cleared.  This probably doesn't matter to you.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-21 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-21 13:21 [PATCH 00/10] Improve shrink_slab() scalability (old complexity was O(n^2), new is O(n)) Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-21 13:21 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm: Assign id to every memcg-aware shrinker Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-24 18:40   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-03-26 15:09     ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-26 15:14       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-26 15:38         ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-27  9:15       ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-03-27 15:09         ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-27 15:48           ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-03-28 10:30             ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-28 11:02               ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-03-21 13:21 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm: Maintain memcg-aware shrinkers in mcg_shrinkers array Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-24 18:45   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-03-26 15:20     ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-26 15:34       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-27  9:18       ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-03-27 15:30         ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-21 13:21 ` [PATCH 03/10] mm: Assign memcg-aware shrinkers bitmap to memcg Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-21 14:56   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-21 15:12     ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-21 15:26       ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2018-03-21 15:43         ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-21 16:20           ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-21 16:42             ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-21 17:54               ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-22 16:39                 ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-23  9:06   ` kbuild test robot
2018-03-23 11:26     ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-24 19:25   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-03-26 15:29     ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-27 10:00       ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-03-27 15:17         ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-21 13:21 ` [PATCH 04/10] fs: Propagate shrinker::id to list_lru Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-24 18:50   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-03-26 15:29     ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-21 13:22 ` [PATCH 05/10] list_lru: Add memcg argument to list_lru_from_kmem() Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-02  3:17   ` [lkp-robot] [list_lru] 42658d54ce: BUG:unable_to_handle_kernel kernel test robot
2018-04-02  8:51     ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-21 13:22 ` [PATCH 06/10] list_lru: Pass dst_memcg argument to memcg_drain_list_lru_node() Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-24 19:32   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-03-26 15:30     ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-28 14:49       ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-21 13:22 ` [PATCH 07/10] list_lru: Pass lru " Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-21 13:22 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm: Set bit in memcg shrinker bitmap on first list_lru item apearance Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-24 19:45   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-03-26 15:31     ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-21 13:22 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm: Iterate only over charged shrinkers during memcg shrink_slab() Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-24 20:11   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-03-26 15:33     ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-21 13:23 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm: Clear shrinker bit if there are no objects related to memcg Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-24 20:33   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-03-26 15:37     ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-21 13:23 ` [PATCH 00/10] Improve shrink_slab() scalability (old complexity was O(n^2), new is O(n)) Kirill Tkhai

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