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From: Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>
To: Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>
Cc: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thara Gopinath <thara.gopinath@linaro.org>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Chris Redpath <chris.redpath@arm.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Todd Kjos <tkjos@google.com>, Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/6] sched/fair: Introduce an energy estimation helper function
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 15:54:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180321155458.GD13951@e110439-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180321142630.GB2168@queper01-VirtualBox>

On 21-Mar 14:26, Quentin Perret wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 Mar 2018 at 12:39:21 (+0000), Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > On 20-Mar 09:43, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
> > > From: Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > +static unsigned long compute_energy(struct task_struct *p, int dst_cpu)
> > > +{
> > > +	unsigned long util, fdom_max_util;
> > > +	struct capacity_state *cs;
> > > +	unsigned long energy = 0;
> > > +	struct freq_domain *fdom;
> > > +	int cpu;
> > > +
> > > +	for_each_freq_domain(fdom) {
> > > +		fdom_max_util = 0;
> > > +		for_each_cpu_and(cpu, &(fdom->span), cpu_online_mask) {
> > > +			util = cpu_util_next(cpu, p, dst_cpu);
> > 
> > Would be nice to find a way to cache all these util and reuse them
> > below... even just to ensure data consistency between the "cs"
> > computation and its usage...
> 
> So actually, what I can do is add something like
> 
>     fdom_tot_util += util;
> 
> to this loop and compute
> 
>     energy = cs->power * fdom_tot_util / cs->cap;
> 
> only once, instead of having the second loop to compute the energy. We don't
> have to scale the util for each and every CPU since they share the same
> cap state. That would save some divisions and ensure the consistency
> between the selection of the cap state and the associated energy
> computation. What do you think ?

Right, would say that under the hypothesis the we are in the same
frequency domain (and we are because of fdom->span), that's basically
doing:

   sum_i(P_x * U_i / C_x) => P_x / C_x * sum_i(U_i)

Where (C_x, P_x) are the EM reported capacity and power for the
expected frequency domain OPP.

> Or maybe you were talking about consistency between several consecutive
> calls to compute_energy() ?

Nope, the above +1

> > > +			fdom_max_util = max(util, fdom_max_util);
> > > +		}
> > > +
> > > +		/*
> > > +		 * Here we assume that the capacity states of CPUs belonging to
> > > +		 * the same frequency domains are shared. Hence, we look at the
> > > +		 * capacity state of the first CPU and re-use it for all.
> > > +		 */
> > > +		cpu = cpumask_first(&(fdom->span));
> > > +		cs = find_cap_state(cpu, fdom_max_util);
> >                 ^^^^
> > 
> > The above code could theoretically return NULL, although likely EAS is
> > completely disabled if em->nb_cap_states == 0, right?
> 
> That's right. sched_energy_present cannot be enabled with
> em->nb_cap_states == 0, and compute_energy() is never called without
> sched_energy_present in the proposed implementation.
> 
> > 
> > If that's the case then, in the previous function, you can certainly
> > avoid the initialization of *cs and maybe also add an explicit:
> > 
> >     BUG_ON(em->nb_cap_states == 0);
> > 
> > which helps even just as "in code documentation".
> > 
> > But, I'm not sure if maintainers like BUG_ON in scheduler code :)
> 
> Yes, I'm not sure about the BUG_ON either :).

FWIW, there are already some BUG_ON in fair.c... thus, if they can
pinpoint a specific bug in case of errors, they should be acceptable ?

> I agree that it would be nice to document somewhere that
> compute_energy() is unsafe to call without sched_energy_present.
> I can simply add a proper doc comment to this function actually.
> Would that work ?

Right, it's just that _maybe_ an explicit BUG_ON is improving the
documentation by making more explicit the error on testing ?

Thus, I would probably add both... but Peter will tell you for sure ;)

-- 
#include <best/regards.h>

Patrick Bellasi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-03-21 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-20  9:43 [RFC PATCH 0/6] Energy Aware Scheduling Dietmar Eggemann
2018-03-20  9:43 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] sched/fair: Create util_fits_capacity() Dietmar Eggemann
2018-03-20  9:43 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] sched: Introduce energy models of CPUs Dietmar Eggemann
2018-03-20  9:52   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-03-21  0:45     ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-25 13:48     ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-26 22:26       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-04-09 12:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-09 13:45     ` Quentin Perret
2018-04-09 15:32       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-09 16:42         ` Quentin Perret
2018-04-10  6:55           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-04-10  9:31             ` Quentin Perret
2018-04-10 10:20               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-20  9:43 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] sched: Add over-utilization/tipping point indicator Dietmar Eggemann
2018-04-09  9:40   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-09  9:47     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-09  9:53     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-04-09 11:49       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-20  9:43 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] sched/fair: Introduce an energy estimation helper function Dietmar Eggemann
2018-03-21  9:04   ` Juri Lelli
2018-03-21 12:26     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-03-21 12:59       ` Juri Lelli
2018-03-21 13:55         ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-21 15:15           ` Juri Lelli
2018-03-21 16:26             ` Morten Rasmussen
2018-03-21 17:02               ` Juri Lelli
2018-03-21 14:02       ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-21 21:15         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-03-21 12:39   ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-03-21 14:26     ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-21 14:50       ` Juri Lelli
2018-03-21 15:54       ` Patrick Bellasi [this message]
2018-03-22  5:05         ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-20  9:43 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] sched/fair: Select an energy-efficient CPU on task wake-up Dietmar Eggemann
2018-03-21 15:35   ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-03-22 20:10     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-03-23 15:47       ` Morten Rasmussen
2018-03-24  1:13         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-03-24  1:34           ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-24  6:06             ` Joel Fernandes
2018-03-24  1:22         ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-25  1:52     ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-22 16:27   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-03-22 18:06     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-03-22 20:19       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-03-24  1:47         ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-25  0:12           ` Joel Fernandes
2018-03-23 16:00     ` Morten Rasmussen
2018-03-24  0:36       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-03-25  1:38       ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-20  9:43 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] drivers: base: arch_topology.c: Enable EAS for arm/arm64 platforms Dietmar Eggemann
2018-03-20  9:49   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-03-20 15:20     ` Dietmar Eggemann

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