From: Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>
To: Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>
Cc: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Thara Gopinath <thara.gopinath@linaro.org>,
linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
Chris Redpath <chris.redpath@arm.com>,
Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Todd Kjos <tkjos@google.com>, Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/6] sched/fair: Introduce an energy estimation helper function
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 05:05:29 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180322050527.GA1559@queper01-VirtualBox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180321155458.GD13951@e110439-lin>
On Wednesday 21 Mar 2018 at 15:54:58 (+0000), Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> On 21-Mar 14:26, Quentin Perret wrote:
> > On Wednesday 21 Mar 2018 at 12:39:21 (+0000), Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > > On 20-Mar 09:43, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
> > > > From: Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>
[...]
> > So actually, what I can do is add something like
> >
> > fdom_tot_util += util;
> >
> > to this loop and compute
> >
> > energy = cs->power * fdom_tot_util / cs->cap;
> >
> > only once, instead of having the second loop to compute the energy. We don't
> > have to scale the util for each and every CPU since they share the same
> > cap state. That would save some divisions and ensure the consistency
> > between the selection of the cap state and the associated energy
> > computation. What do you think ?
>
> Right, would say that under the hypothesis the we are in the same
> frequency domain (and we are because of fdom->span), that's basically
> doing:
>
> sum_i(P_x * U_i / C_x) => P_x / C_x * sum_i(U_i)
>
> Where (C_x, P_x) are the EM reported capacity and power for the
> expected frequency domain OPP.
>
Yes that's exactly that. I'll do the change in v2.
> > Or maybe you were talking about consistency between several consecutive
> > calls to compute_energy() ?
>
> Nope, the above +1
>
[...]
> > I agree that it would be nice to document somewhere that
> > compute_energy() is unsafe to call without sched_energy_present.
> > I can simply add a proper doc comment to this function actually.
> > Would that work ?
>
> Right, it's just that _maybe_ an explicit BUG_ON is improving the
> documentation by making more explicit the error on testing ?
>
> Thus, I would probably add both... but Peter will tell you for sure ;)
>
Right, but I'm still not sure if the BUG_ON is the right thing to do. I
mean, if we really want to make this check, then we could also try
to recover into a working state ... If we enter compute_energy() without
having an energy model, and if we detect it on time, we could bail out
and disable sched_energy_present ASAP with an error message for example.
That would let us know if EAS is broken without making the system
unusable.
Anyways, if there is a general agreement, or if the maintainers think
that the BUG_ON is the right thing to do here, I'm happy to change that
in future versions :)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-03-22 5:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-03-20 9:43 [RFC PATCH 0/6] Energy Aware Scheduling Dietmar Eggemann
2018-03-20 9:43 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] sched/fair: Create util_fits_capacity() Dietmar Eggemann
2018-03-20 9:43 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] sched: Introduce energy models of CPUs Dietmar Eggemann
2018-03-20 9:52 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-03-21 0:45 ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-25 13:48 ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-26 22:26 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-04-09 12:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-09 13:45 ` Quentin Perret
2018-04-09 15:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-09 16:42 ` Quentin Perret
2018-04-10 6:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-04-10 9:31 ` Quentin Perret
2018-04-10 10:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-20 9:43 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] sched: Add over-utilization/tipping point indicator Dietmar Eggemann
2018-04-09 9:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-09 9:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-09 9:53 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-04-09 11:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-20 9:43 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] sched/fair: Introduce an energy estimation helper function Dietmar Eggemann
2018-03-21 9:04 ` Juri Lelli
2018-03-21 12:26 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-03-21 12:59 ` Juri Lelli
2018-03-21 13:55 ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-21 15:15 ` Juri Lelli
2018-03-21 16:26 ` Morten Rasmussen
2018-03-21 17:02 ` Juri Lelli
2018-03-21 14:02 ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-21 21:15 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-03-21 12:39 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-03-21 14:26 ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-21 14:50 ` Juri Lelli
2018-03-21 15:54 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-03-22 5:05 ` Quentin Perret [this message]
2018-03-20 9:43 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] sched/fair: Select an energy-efficient CPU on task wake-up Dietmar Eggemann
2018-03-21 15:35 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-03-22 20:10 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-03-23 15:47 ` Morten Rasmussen
2018-03-24 1:13 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-03-24 1:34 ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-24 6:06 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-03-24 1:22 ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-25 1:52 ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-22 16:27 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-03-22 18:06 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-03-22 20:19 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-03-24 1:47 ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-25 0:12 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-03-23 16:00 ` Morten Rasmussen
2018-03-24 0:36 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-03-25 1:38 ` Quentin Perret
2018-03-20 9:43 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] drivers: base: arch_topology.c: Enable EAS for arm/arm64 platforms Dietmar Eggemann
2018-03-20 9:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-03-20 15:20 ` Dietmar Eggemann
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