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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, boqun.feng@gmail.com,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] locking/qspinlock: Limit # of spins in _Q_PENDING_VAL wait loop
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 19:26:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180410182639.GI15514@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1523297332-22720-2-git-send-email-longman@redhat.com>

Hi Waiman,

On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 02:08:52PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> A locker in the pending code path is doing an infinite number of spins
> when waiting for the _Q_PENDING_VAL to _Q_LOCK_VAL transition. There
> is a concern that lock starvation can happen concurrent lockers are
> able to take the lock in the cmpxchg loop without queuing and pass it
> around amongst themselves.
> 
> To ensure forward progress while still taking advantage of using
> the pending code path without queuing, the code is now modified
> to do a limited number of spins before aborting the effort and
> going to queue itself.
> 
> Ideally, the spinning times should be at least a few times the typical
> cacheline load time from memory which I think can be down to 100ns or
> so for each cacheline load with the newest systems or up to several
> hundreds ns for older systems.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
> ---
>  kernel/locking/qspinlock.c | 19 +++++++++++++++++--
>  1 file changed, 17 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/locking/qspinlock.c b/kernel/locking/qspinlock.c
> index 634a49b..35367cc 100644
> --- a/kernel/locking/qspinlock.c
> +++ b/kernel/locking/qspinlock.c
> @@ -82,6 +82,15 @@
>  #endif
>  
>  /*
> + * The pending bit spinning loop count.
> + * This parameter can be overridden by another architecture specific
> + * constant. Default is 512.
> + */
> +#ifndef _Q_PENDING_LOOP
> +#define _Q_PENDING_LOOP	(1 << 9)
> +#endif

I really dislike heuristics like this because there's never a good number
to choose and it almost certainly varies between systems and workloads
rather than just by architecture. However, I've also not managed to come
up with something better.

If I rewrite your code slightly to look like:

	if (val == _Q_PENDING_VAL) {
		int cnt = _Q_PENDING_LOOP;
		val = atomic_cond_read_relaxed(&lock->val, (VAL != _Q_PENDING_VAL) || !cnt--);
	}

then architectures that implement atomic_cond_read_relaxed as something
more interesting than a spinning loop will probably be happy with
_Q_PENDING_LOOP == 1;

I'll post a v2 tomorrow with that change, and I'll add your stat patch to
the series too so that everything is kept together.

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-10 18:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-09 18:08 [PATCH 1/2] locking/qspinlock: Add stat tracking for pending vs slowpath Waiman Long
2018-04-09 18:08 ` [PATCH 2/2] locking/qspinlock: Limit # of spins in _Q_PENDING_VAL wait loop Waiman Long
2018-04-10 18:26   ` Will Deacon [this message]
2018-04-10 18:53     ` Waiman Long
2018-04-11 15:22   ` Catalin Marinas
2018-04-11 18:06     ` Waiman Long

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