From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Jade Alglave <j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>,
Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@inria.fr>,
Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] memory-model: fix cheat sheet typo
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 13:32:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180410203214.GA19606@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180409184258.GP3948@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 11:42:58AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 06:50:15PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > "RWM" should be "RMW", and that's more or less the extent to which I
> > can claim to change the document. :) In particular, "Self" is not
> > documented and the difference between "Self" and "SV" is not clear
> > to me.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
>
> Applied, though without the questions. ;-)
>
> "Self" is for things like smp_load_acquire() and smp_store_release()
> that order themselves against later and earlier accesses, respectively.
> This ordering applies to later/earlier access to all variables, not
> just the one that smp_load_acquire()/smp_store_release() accessed.
> In contrast, things like smp_mb() order only other accesses, not
> themselves. Or at least it is impossible to proves whether or not they
> order themselves because they are not separately visible to other CPUs.
>
> "SV" is "same variable", which applies to pretty much anything that
> accesses a variable, but not to things like smp_mb() which do not.
>
> Does that help?
On the perhaps naive assumption that silence means assent, how about
the following patch?
Thanx, Paul
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commit 818e46e8db6cacb099b8640b7f2945a3151c00ab
Author: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date: Tue Apr 10 13:24:19 2018 -0700
tools/memory-order: Improve key for SELF and SV
The key for "SELF" was missing completely and the key for "SV" was
a bit obtuse. This commit therefore adds a key for "SELF" and improves
the one for "SV".
Reported-by: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
diff --git a/tools/memory-model/Documentation/cheatsheet.txt b/tools/memory-model/Documentation/cheatsheet.txt
index c0eafdaddfa4..d502993ac7d2 100644
--- a/tools/memory-model/Documentation/cheatsheet.txt
+++ b/tools/memory-model/Documentation/cheatsheet.txt
@@ -26,4 +26,5 @@ Key: C: Ordering is cumulative
DR: Dependent read (address dependency)
DW: Dependent write (address, data, or control dependency)
RMW: Atomic read-modify-write operation
- SV Same-variable access
+ SELF: Orders self, as opposed to accesses both before and after
+ SV: Orders later accesses to the same variable
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-04-10 20:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-09 16:50 [PATCH] memory-model: fix cheat sheet typo Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-09 18:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-04-10 20:32 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2018-04-10 21:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-10 21:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-04-11 11:15 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-11 16:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-04-11 16:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-11 17:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-12 12:52 ` Boqun Feng
2018-04-12 9:23 ` Andrea Parri
2018-04-12 10:18 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-12 11:21 ` Andrea Parri
2018-04-12 21:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-04-13 9:54 ` Andrea Parri
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