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Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:39:56 -0400 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz ([195.113.26.193]:46606 "EHLO atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752308AbeDPQjz (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Apr 2018 12:39:55 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 18:39:53 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Sasha Levin Cc: Steven Rostedt , Linus Torvalds , Petr Mladek , "stable@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "akpm@linux-foundation.org" , "linux-mm@kvack.org" , Cong Wang , Dave Hansen , Johannes Weiner , Mel Gorman , Michal Hocko , Vlastimil Babka , Peter Zijlstra , Jan Kara , Mathieu Desnoyers , Tetsuo Handa , Byungchul Park , Tejun Heo Subject: Re: [PATCH AUTOSEL for 4.14 015/161] printk: Add console owner and waiter logic to load balance console writes Message-ID: <20180416163952.GA8740@amd> References: <20180409001936.162706-15-alexander.levin@microsoft.com> <20180409082246.34hgp3ymkfqke3a4@pathway.suse.cz> <20180415144248.GP2341@sasha-vm> <20180416093058.6edca0bb@gandalf.local.home> <20180416153031.GA5039@amd> <20180416155031.GX2341@sasha-vm> <20180416160608.GA7071@amd> <20180416122019.1c175925@gandalf.local.home> <20180416162757.GB2341@sasha-vm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="envbJBWh7q8WU6mo" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180416162757.GB2341@sasha-vm> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Sender: stable-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: stable@vger.kernel.org X-getmail-retrieved-from-mailbox: INBOX X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-ID: --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon 2018-04-16 16:28:00, Sasha Levin wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:20:19PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > >On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 18:06:08 +0200 > >Pavel Machek wrote: > > > >> That means you want to ignore not-so-serious bugs, because benefit of > >> fixing them is lower than risk of the regressions. I believe bugs that > >> do not bother anyone should _not_ be fixed in stable. > >> > >> That was case of the LED patch. Yes, the commit fixed bug, but it > >> introduced regressions that were fixed by subsequent patches. > > > >I agree. I would disagree that the patch this thread is on should go to > >stable. What's the point of stable if it introduces regressions by > >backporting bug fixes for non major bugs. >=20 > One such reason is that users will then hit the regression when they > upgrade to the next -stable version anyways. Well, yes, testing is required when moving from 4.14 to 4.15. But testing should not be required when moving from 4.14.5 to 4.14.6. > >Every fix I make I consider labeling it for stable. The ones I don't, I > >feel the bug fix is not worth the risk of added regressions. > > > >I worry that people will get lazy and stop marking commits for stable > >(or even thinking about it) because they know that there's a bot that > >will pull it for them. That thought crossed my mind. Why do I want to > >label anything stable if a bot will probably catch it. Then I could > >just wait till the bot posts it before I even think about stable. >=20 > People are already "lazy". You are actually an exception for marking your > commits. >=20 > Yes, folks will chime in with "sure, I mark my patches too!", but if you > look at the entire committer pool in the kernel you'll see that most > don't bother with this to begin with. So you take everything and put it into stable? I don't think that's a solution. If you are worried about people not putting enough "Stable: " tags in their commits, perhaps you can write them emails "hey, I think this should go to stable, do you agree"? You should get people marking their commits themselves pretty quickly... =09 Pavel --=20 (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blo= g.html --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlrU0dgACgkQMOfwapXb+vKZNQCffEDUMR9dsaiM6OWcxujTun0x yFwAmwQdBZnRo/K55M/VNiSnmOOKXC9H =ZOmi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo--