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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"moderated list:DMA BUFFER SHARING FRAMEWORK"
	<linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org>,
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	"Jerome Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Logan Gunthorpe" <logang@deltatee.com>,
	"open list:DMA BUFFER SHARING FRAMEWORK"
	<linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Linaro-mm-sig] [PATCH 4/8] dma-buf: add peer2peer flag
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:48:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180424184847.GA3247@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180420152111.GR31310@phenom.ffwll.local>

On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 05:21:11PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > At the very lowest level they will need to be handled differently for
> > many architectures, the questions is at what point we'll do the
> > branching out.
> 
> Having at least struct page also in that list with (dma_addr_t, lenght)
> pairs has a bunch of benefits for drivers in unifying buffer handling
> code. You just pass that one single list around, use the dma_addr_t side
> for gpu access (generally bashing it into gpu ptes). And the struct page
> (if present) for cpu access, using kmap or vm_insert_*. We generally
> ignore virt, if we do need a full mapping then we construct a vmap for
> that buffer of our own.

Well, for mapping a resource (which gets back to the start of the
discussion) you will need an explicit virt pointer.  You also need
an explicit virt pointer and not just page_address/kmap for users of
dma_get_sgtable, because for many architectures you will need to flush
the virtual address used to access the data, which might be a
vmap/ioremap style mapping retourned from dma_alloc_address, and not
the directly mapped kernel address.

Here is another idea at the low-level dma API level:

 - dma_get_sgtable goes away.  The replacement is a new
   dma_alloc_remap helper that takes the virtual address returned
   from dma_alloc_attrs/coherent and creates a dma_addr_t for the
   given new device.  If the original allocation was a coherent
   one no cache flushing is required either (because the arch
   made sure it is coherent), if the original allocation used
   DMA_ATTR_NON_CONSISTENT the new allocation will need
   dma_cache_sync calls as well.
 - you never even try to share a mapping retourned from
   dma_map_resource - instead each device using it creates a new
   mapping, which makes sense as no virtual addresses are involved
   at all.

> So maybe a list of (struct page *, dma_addr_t, num_pages) would suit best,
> with struct page * being optional (if it's a resource, or something else
> that the kernel core mm isn't aware of). But that only has benefits if we
> really roll it out everywhere, in all the subsystems and drivers, since if
> we don't we've made the struct pages ** <-> sgt conversion fun only worse
> by adding a 3 representation of gpu buffer object backing storage.

I think the most important thing about such a buffer object is that
it can distinguish the underlying mapping types.  While
dma_alloc_coherent, dma_alloc_attrs with DMA_ATTR_NON_CONSISTENT,
dma_map_page/dma_map_single/dma_map_sg and dma_map_resource all give
back a dma_addr_t they are in now way interchangable.  And trying to
stuff them all into a structure like struct scatterlist that has
no indication what kind of mapping you are dealing with is just
asking for trouble.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-24 18:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-25 10:59 [PATCH 1/8] lib/scatterlist: add sg_set_dma_addr() helper Christian König
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 2/8] PCI: Add pci_find_common_upstream_dev() Christian König
2018-03-28 12:38   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-03-28 15:07     ` Christian König
2018-03-28 15:47       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-28 16:02         ` Christian König
2018-03-28 16:25           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-28 18:28             ` Christian König
2018-03-28 18:57               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-28 19:44                 ` Christian König
2018-03-28 19:53                   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-29 11:44                     ` Christian König
2018-03-29 15:45                       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-29 16:10                         ` Christian König
2018-03-29 16:25                           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-29 18:15                             ` Christian König
2018-03-30  1:58                             ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-30  6:33                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-03-30 15:25                                 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-30 18:46                               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-30 19:45                                 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-04-02 17:02                                   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-02 17:20                                     ` Jerome Glisse
2018-04-02 17:37                                       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-02 19:16                                         ` Jerome Glisse
2018-04-02 19:32                                           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-02 19:45                                             ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]                     ` <CADnq5_P-z=Noos_jaME9_CERri3C-m2hPPvx2bArr36O=1FnrA@mail.gmail.com>
2018-03-29 14:37                       ` Alex Deucher
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 3/8] PCI: Add pci_peer_traffic_supported() Christian König
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 4/8] dma-buf: add peer2peer flag Christian König
2018-03-29  6:57   ` Daniel Vetter
2018-03-29 11:34     ` Christian König
2018-04-03  9:09       ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-03 17:06         ` Jerome Glisse
2018-04-03 18:08           ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-16 12:39             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-16 13:38               ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-19  8:16                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-20  7:13                   ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-20  8:58                     ` Christian König
2018-04-20 10:17                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-20 10:44                         ` Christian König
2018-04-20 12:46                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-20 15:21                             ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Daniel Vetter
2018-04-24 18:48                               ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2018-04-24 19:32                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25  5:48                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25  6:10                                     ` Alex Deucher
2018-04-25  6:13                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25  6:23                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25  6:43                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25  7:02                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25  7:09                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25  7:30                                               ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25  7:56                                                 ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-25  8:55                                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25  7:43                                               ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-25  7:41                                           ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-25  8:54                                             ` noveau vs arm dma ops Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25  9:25                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-04-25 10:04                                               ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 15:33                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25 21:35                                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25 23:26                                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-04-26  9:17                                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-26  9:09                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-26  9:45                                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-26 11:12                                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-04-25 22:54                                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-04-26  9:13                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-26  9:20                                                     ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Daniel Vetter
2018-04-26  9:24                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-26  9:39                                                         ` Daniel Vetter
2018-04-25  6:24                                       ` [Linaro-mm-sig] [PATCH 4/8] dma-buf: add peer2peer flag Alex Deucher
2018-04-25  6:41                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25 17:44                                           ` Alex Deucher
2018-04-25 18:38                                             ` Dan Williams
2018-05-04 12:45                                             ` Lucas Stach
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 5/8] drm/amdgpu: print DMA-buf status in debugfs Christian König
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 6/8] drm/amdgpu: note that we can handle peer2peer DMA-buf Christian König
2018-03-25 10:59 ` [PATCH 7/8] drm/amdgpu: add amdgpu_gem_attach Christian König
2018-03-25 11:00 ` [PATCH 8/8] drm/amdgpu: add support for exporting VRAM using DMA-buf Christian König
2018-03-28 12:37 ` [PATCH 1/8] lib/scatterlist: add sg_set_dma_addr() helper Christoph Hellwig

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