From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753385AbeEBACz (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 May 2018 20:02:55 -0400 Received: from imap.thunk.org ([74.207.234.97]:51058 "EHLO imap.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753312AbeEBACy (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 May 2018 20:02:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 20:02:50 -0400 From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" To: Justin Forbes Cc: Jeremy Cline , Sultan Alsawaf , Pavel Machek , LKML , Jann Horn Subject: Re: Linux messages full of `random: get_random_u32 called from` Message-ID: <20180502000250.GI10479@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" , Justin Forbes , Jeremy Cline , Sultan Alsawaf , Pavel Machek , LKML , Jann Horn References: <20180427201036.GL5965@thunk.org> <20180429143205.GD13475@amd> <20180429170541.lrzwyihrd6d75rql@sultan-box> <20180429184101.GA31156@amd> <20180429202033.ysmc42mj2rrk3h7p@sultan-box> <20180429220519.GQ5965@thunk.org> <01000163186628e6-3fe4abfc-eaaf-470c-90c8-2d8ad91db8f1-000000@email.amazonses.com> <20180501125518.GI20585@thunk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.5 (2018-04-13) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@thunk.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on imap.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, May 01, 2018 at 05:35:56PM -0500, Justin Forbes wrote: > > I have not reproduced in GCE myself. We did get some confirmation > that removing dracut-fips does make the problem less dire (but I > wouldn't call a 4 minute boot a win, but booting in 4 minutes is > better than not booting at all). Specifically systemd calls libgcrypt > before it even opens the log with fips there, and this is before > virtio-rng modules could even load. Right now though, we are looking > at pretty much any possible options as the majority of people are > calling for me to backout the patches completely from rawhide. FWIW, Debian Testing is using systemd 238, and from what I can tell it's calling libgcrypt and it has the same (as near as I can tell) totally pointless hmac nonsense, and it's not a problem that I can see. Of course, Debian and Fedora may have a different set of patches.... - Ted