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Wysocki" Cc: Jan Kara , Steven Rostedt , Linus Torvalds , Petr Mladek , "stable@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "akpm@linux-foundation.org" , "linux-mm@kvack.org" , Cong Wang , Dave Hansen , Johannes Weiner , Mel Gorman , Michal Hocko , Vlastimil Babka , Peter Zijlstra , Mathieu Desnoyers , Tetsuo Handa , Byungchul Park , Tejun Heo Subject: Re: [PATCH AUTOSEL for 4.14 015/161] printk: Add console owner and waiter logic to load balance console writes Message-ID: <20180503093651.GC32180@amd> References: <20180416121224.2138b806@gandalf.local.home> <20180416161911.GA2341@sasha-vm> <20180416123019.4d235374@gandalf.local.home> <20180416163754.GD2341@sasha-vm> <20180416170604.GC11034@amd> <20180416172327.GK2341@sasha-vm> <20180417114144.ov27khlig5thqvyo@quack2.suse.cz> <20180417133149.GR2341@sasha-vm> <20180417155549.6lxmoiwnlwtwdgld@quack2.suse.cz> <20180417161933.GY2341@sasha-vm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180417161933.GY2341@sasha-vm> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Sender: stable-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: stable@vger.kernel.org X-getmail-retrieved-from-mailbox: INBOX X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-ID: --lMM8JwqTlfDpEaS6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue 2018-04-17 16:19:35, Sasha Levin wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 05:55:49PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote: > >On Tue 17-04-18 13:31:51, Sasha Levin wrote: > >> We may be able to guesstimate the 'regression chance', but there's no > >> way we can guess the 'annoyance' once. There are so many different use > >> cases that we just can't even guess how many people would get "annoyed" > >> by something. > > > >As a maintainer, I hope I have reasonable idea what are common use cases > >for my subsystem. Those I cater to when estimating 'annoyance'. Sure I d= on't > >know all of the use cases so people doing unusual stuff hit more bugs and > >have to report them to get fixes included in -stable. But for me this is= a > >preferable tradeoff over the risk of regression so this is the rule I use > >when tagging for stable. Now I'm not a -stable maintainer and I fully ag= ree > >with "those who do the work decide" principle so pick whatever patches y= ou > >think are appropriate, I just wanted explain why I don't think more patc= hes > >in stable are necessarily good. >=20 > The AUTOSEL story is different for subsystems that don't do -stable, and > subsystems that are actually doing the work (like yourself). >=20 > I'm not trying to override active maintainers, I'm trying to help them > make decisions. Ok, cool. Can you exclude LED subsystem, Hibernation and Nokia N900 stuff from autosel work? 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