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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Cc: Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	byungchul.park@lge.com, kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] rcu: Unlock non-start node only after accessing its gp_seq_needed
Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 21:16:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180522041651.GA18405@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180522002823.GP3803@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 05:28:23PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 05:07:34PM -0700, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 04:25:38PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 09:42:20PM -0700, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > > > We acquire gp_seq_needed locklessly. To be safe, lets do the unlocking
> > > > after the access.
> > > 
> > > Actually, no, we hold rnp_start's ->lock throughout.  And this CPU (or in
> > > the case of no-CBs CPUs, this task) is in charge of rdp->gp_seq_needed,
> > > so nothing else is accessing it.  Or at least that is the intent.  ;-)
> > 
> > I was talking about protecting the internal node's rnp->gp_seq_needed, not
> > the rnp_start's gp_seq_needed.
> 
> Ah, good point, I missed the "if" condition.  This can be argued to work,
> sort of, given that we still hold the leaf rcu_node structure's lock,
> so that there is a limit to how far grace periods can advance.
> 
> But the code would of course be much cleaner with your change.
> 
> > We are protecting them in the loop:
> > 
> > like this:
> > for(...)
> > 	if (rnp != rnp_start)
> > 		raw_spin_lock_rcu_node(rnp);
> > 	[...]
> > 	// access rnp->gp_seq and rnp->gp_seq_needed
> > 	[...]
> > 	if (rnp != rnp_start)
> > 		raw_spin_unlock_rcu_node(rnp);
> > 
> > But we don't need to do such protection in unlock_out ? I'm sorry if I'm
> > missing something, but I'm wondering if rnp->gp_seq_needed of an internal
> > node can be accessed locklessly, then why can't that be done also in the
> > funnel locking loop - after all we are holding the rnp_start's lock through
> > out right?
> 
> I was focused on the updates, and missed the rnp->gp_seq_req access in the
> "if" statement.  The current code does sort of work, but only assuming
> that the compiler doesn't tear the load, and so your change would help.
> Could you please resend with your other two updated patches?  It depends
> on one of the earlier patches, so does not apply cleanly as-is.  I could
> hand-apply it, but that sounds like a good way to make your updated
> series fail to apply.  ;-)
> 
> But could you also make the commit log explicitly call out the "if"
> condition as being the offending access?

Never mind, me being stupid.  I need to apply this change to the original
commit "rcu: Make rcu_nocb_wait_gp() check if GP already requested", which
I have done with this attribution:

[ paulmck: Move lock release past "if" as suggested by Joel Fernandes. ]

I have rebased my stack on top of the updated commit.

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-22  4:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-21  4:42 [PATCH v3 0/4] fixes, cleanups for rcu/dev Joel Fernandes
2018-05-21  4:42 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] rcu: Add comment documenting how rcu_seq_snap works Joel Fernandes
2018-05-21  4:50   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-05-21  5:48     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-05-21  6:18       ` Randy Dunlap
2018-05-21  9:35       ` Joe Perches
2018-05-21 23:42       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-05-21  4:42 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] rcu: Cleanup the variables used to request a new grace period Joel Fernandes
2018-05-21 23:39   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-05-21 23:41     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-05-21  4:42 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] rcu: Use better variable names in funnel locking loop Joel Fernandes
2018-05-21 23:13   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-05-22  0:00     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-05-22  0:19       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-05-22  0:19         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-05-22  0:29           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-05-21  4:42 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] rcu: Unlock non-start node only after accessing its gp_seq_needed Joel Fernandes
2018-05-21 23:25   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-05-22  0:07     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-05-22  0:28       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-05-22  4:16         ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2018-05-22  4:43           ` Joel Fernandes
2018-05-22 12:12             ` Paul E. McKenney

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