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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
Cc: viresh.kumar@linaro.org, rjw@rjwysocki.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Eduardo Valentin <edubezval@gmail.com>,
	Javi Merino <javi.merino@kernel.org>,
	Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>,
	Kevin Wangtao <kevin.wangtao@linaro.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Rui Zhang <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
	Daniel Thompson <daniel.thompson@linaro.org>,
	Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V6] powercap/drivers/idle_injection: Add an idle injection framework
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 19:35:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180612173514.GV12217@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7190a58e-05f2-216c-8b36-70692fa722bf@linaro.org>

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 07:02:57PM +0200, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> Mmh, it is unclear for me if the park() vs wakeup() can happen at the
> same time.
> 
> If the park() function is called, that means the hotplug is allowed.

No, it means we're inside hot-un-plug, but that doesn't stop the hrtimer
from firing.

> If the hotplug is allowed, we can modify the online mask.
> 
> What happens with the online mask when we are processing it in an
> interrupt context ?

RCU-like, if you observe a CPU in the online mask, it will stay
available, but the bit might get cleared.

> > Maybe avoid the issue entire by having a
> > {period,idle} tuple, where your old run := period - idle.
> 
> Can you elaborate ? I don't get it.

Have a period parameter that specifies the interval in which you have
one injected idle, and specify for how long you want to inject idle;
then obviously idle < period.

> >>> Furthermore, should you not be using hrtimer_forward(&timer,
> >>> idle_duration + run_duration) instead? AFAICT the current scheme is
> >>> prone to drifting.
> >>
> >> (I assume you meant setting the timer in the wakeup task function).
> >>
> >> Yes, drifting is not an issue if that happens. This scheme is simpler
> >> and safer than setting the timer ahead before waking up the tasks with
> >> the risk it expires before all the tasks ended their idle cycles.
> > 
> > sloppy though..
> 
> Ok, do you prefer to see the timer set in the wakeup function and thus
> having a periodic tick for the idle injection ?

I think having a HRTIMER_RESTART handler that does hrtimer_forward() is
the most sensible. You will end up having to deal with threads not being
ready, but I think that's not a real problem.



  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-12 17:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-12 12:00 [PATCH V6] powercap/drivers/idle_injection: Add an idle injection framework Daniel Lezcano
2018-06-12 12:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-12 12:44   ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-06-12 12:52     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-12 13:02       ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-06-12 14:06         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-12 14:37           ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-06-12 15:58             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-12 17:02               ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-06-12 17:35                 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2018-06-13  8:55                   ` Viresh Kumar
2018-06-13  9:03                     ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-06-13  9:10                       ` Viresh Kumar
2018-06-15  8:13                   ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-06-12 12:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-13  8:24   ` Viresh Kumar
2018-06-12 14:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-12 14:45   ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-06-12 14:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-12 14:46   ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-06-13 15:54 ` Pandruvada, Srinivas
2018-06-13 20:00   ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-06-13 20:07     ` Pandruvada, Srinivas
2018-06-13 20:19       ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-06-13 20:32         ` Pandruvada, Srinivas
2018-06-13 20:35           ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-06-13 21:27             ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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