From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
boqun.feng@gmail.com, Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 06/11] atomics/treewide: rework ordering barriers
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 17:25:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180705162542.GI14470@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180705101241.7q7nvmzkfsanpnbr@lakrids.cambridge.arm.com>
On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 11:12:41AM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 04, 2018 at 06:50:00PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 04, 2018 at 04:56:19PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 04, 2018 at 04:06:46PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 11:59:47AM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > > > > Currently architectures can override __atomic_op_*() to define the barriers
> > > > > used before/after a relaxed atomic when used to build acquire/release/fence
> > > > > variants.
> > > > >
> > > > > This has the unfortunate property of requiring the architecture to define the
> > > > > full wrapper for the atomics, rather than just the barriers they care about,
> > > > > and gets in the way of generating atomics which can be easily read.
> > > > >
> > > > > Instead, this patch has architectures define an optional set of barriers,
> > > > > __atomic_mb_{before,after}_{acquire,release,fence}(), which <linux/atomic.h>
> > > > > uses to build the wrappers.
> > > >
> > > > Looks like you've renamed these in the patch but not updated the commit
> > > > message.
> > >
> > > Yup; Peter also pointed that out. In my branch this now looks like:
> > >
> > > ----
> > > Instead, this patch has architectures define an optional set of barriers:
> > >
> > > * __atomic_acquire_fence()
> > > * __atomic_release_fence()
> > > * __atomic_pre_fence()
> > > * __atomic_post_fence()
> > >
> > > ... which <linux/atomic.h> uses to build the wrappers.
> > > ----
> > >
> > > ... which is hopefully more legible, too!
> > >
> > > > Also, to add to the bikeshedding, would it worth adding "rmw" in there
> > > > somewhere, e.g. __atomic_post_rmw_fence, since I assume these only
> > > > apply to value-returning stuff?
> > >
> > > I don't have any opinion there, but I'm also not sure I've parsed your
> > > rationale correctly. I guess a !RMW full-fence op doesn't make sense? Or
> > > that's something we want to avoid in the API?
> > >
> > > AFAICT, we only use __atomic_{pre,post}_fence() for RMW ops today.
> >
> > No, I think you're right and my terminology is confused. Leave it as-is
> > for the moment.
>
> Sure thing.
>
> Perhaps __atomic_{pre,post}_full_fence() might be better, assuming
> you're trying to avoid people erroneously assuming that
> __atomic_{pre,post}_fence() are like acquire/release fences.
Good idea, I think that's better.
Will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-05 16:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-25 10:59 [PATCHv2 00/11] atomics: generate atomic headers / instrument arm64 Mark Rutland
2018-06-25 10:59 ` [PATCHv2 01/11] atomic/tty: Fix up atomic abuse in ldsem Mark Rutland
2018-06-26 18:53 ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-06-26 19:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-27 17:33 ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-06-25 10:59 ` [PATCHv2 02/11] atomics/x86: reduce arch_cmpxchg64*() instrumentation Mark Rutland
2018-06-25 10:59 ` [PATCHv2 03/11] atomics: simplify cmpxchg() instrumentation Mark Rutland
2018-06-25 11:38 ` Andrea Parri
2018-06-25 11:47 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-06-25 11:48 ` Mark Rutland
2018-06-25 10:59 ` [PATCHv2 04/11] atomics/treewide: instrument xchg() Mark Rutland
2018-06-25 10:59 ` [PATCHv2 05/11] atomics: instrument cmpxchg_double*() Mark Rutland
2018-06-25 10:59 ` [PATCHv2 06/11] atomics/treewide: rework ordering barriers Mark Rutland
2018-06-25 15:44 ` Mark Rutland
2018-07-04 15:06 ` Will Deacon
2018-07-04 15:56 ` Mark Rutland
2018-07-04 17:50 ` Will Deacon
2018-07-05 10:12 ` Mark Rutland
2018-07-05 16:25 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2018-06-25 10:59 ` [PATCHv2 07/11] atomics: add common header generation files Mark Rutland
2018-06-28 10:58 ` Mark Rutland
2018-06-28 11:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-25 10:59 ` [PATCHv2 08/11] atomics: switch to generated fallbacks Mark Rutland
2018-07-04 15:28 ` Will Deacon
2018-07-04 16:01 ` Mark Rutland
2018-07-04 17:44 ` Will Deacon
2018-07-05 11:52 ` Mark Rutland
2018-06-25 10:59 ` [PATCHv2 09/11] atomics: switch to generated atomic-long Mark Rutland
2018-06-25 10:59 ` [PATCHv2 10/11] atomics: switch to generated instrumentation Mark Rutland
2018-06-25 10:59 ` [PATCHv2 11/11] arm64: use instrumented atomics Mark Rutland
2018-07-04 15:24 ` Will Deacon
2018-07-04 16:37 ` Mark Rutland
2018-07-04 17:41 ` Will Deacon
2018-07-05 9:58 ` Mark Rutland
2018-06-25 15:22 ` [PATCHv2 00/11] atomics: generate atomic headers / instrument arm64 Peter Zijlstra
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