From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID, USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B69C4646D for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 03:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E4721A6A for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2018 03:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key) header.d=thunk.org header.i=@thunk.org header.b="m3/M/HDS" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 15E4721A6A Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=mit.edu Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1731323AbeHGF2G (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Aug 2018 01:28:06 -0400 Received: from imap.thunk.org ([74.207.234.97]:44294 "EHLO imap.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725936AbeHGF2F (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Aug 2018 01:28:05 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=thunk.org; s=ef5046eb; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=JE/EEXRoZaB+Aju222RAWGGDZcx8vcBl5wwipdsTA4E=; b=m3/M/HDSy7xbYn5iF6KPBxGqY2 8KkNYTjRVp0Gd0Ep3Msne3marx4zId8+Aix3TQGIOjZAZn2N8bC5Csyz4WyFmIozC8vbeCR0UVsg1 FnO2+jLr3bYd3bTiWtikDxDT1Rjv3H84tVy63WdNmP13P8UfqTaDFWHyyuCYprs7cV0A=; Received: from root (helo=callcc.thunk.org) by imap.thunk.org with local-esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fmsT1-0006OF-G8; Tue, 07 Aug 2018 03:15:27 +0000 Received: by callcc.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id 72FB37A64CD; Mon, 6 Aug 2018 23:15:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 23:15:26 -0400 From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" To: Eric Biggers Cc: "Jason A. Donenfeld" , linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Herbert Xu , Paul Crowley , Greg Kaiser , Michael Halcrow , Samuel Neves , Tomer Ashur , stable@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] crypto: remove speck Message-ID: <20180807031526.GD5048@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" , Eric Biggers , "Jason A. Donenfeld" , linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Herbert Xu , Paul Crowley , Greg Kaiser , Michael Halcrow , Samuel Neves , Tomer Ashur , stable@vger.kernel.org References: <20180806223300.113891-1-ebiggers@kernel.org> <20180806230437.21431-1-Jason@zx2c4.com> <20180807011937.GA133621@gmail.com> <20180807031237.GA779@sol.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180807031237.GA779@sol.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@thunk.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on imap.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 08:12:38PM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote: > I mention this because people are naturally going to be curious about that, e.g. > speculating that Google found a "backdoor" -- remember that we do have some good > cryptographers! I'm just stating what we know, out of honesty and openness; I > don't really intend to be arguing for Speck with this statement, and in any case > we already made the decision to not use Speck. Let's be clear --- the arguments about whether or not to use Speck, and whether or not to remove Speck from the kernel, are purely political --- not techinical. - Ted