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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Douglas Gilbert <dgilbert@interlog.com>
Cc: Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
	drorl@infinidat.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: Recent removal of bsg read/write support
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 14:28:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180903122804.GA15074@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6b907fed-d83f-de75-bde4-11270a0b1b0b@interlog.com>

On Sun 02-09-18 21:16:10, Douglas Gilbert wrote:
> On 2018-09-02 01:44 PM, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> > CC'ing relevant people. Otherwise your mail might get lost.
> > 
> > On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 1:37 PM Dror Levin <drorl@infinidat.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Note: I am not subscribed to LKML so please CC replies to this email.
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > We have an internal tool that uses the bsg read/write interface to
> > > issue SCSI commands as part of a test suite for a storage device.
> > > 
> > > After recently reading on LWN that this interface is to be removed we
> > > tried porting our code to use sg instead. However, that raises new
> > > issues - mainly getting ENOMEM over iSCSI for unknown reasons.
> > > 
> > > Because of this we would like to continue using the bsg interface,
> > > even if some changes are required to meet security concerns.
> > > 
> > > Is there any chance for this removal to be reverted? I saw it was
> > > already included in 4.19-rc1.
> 
> Hi,
> Both bsg and sg are relatively thin shims over the same block layer
> pass-through calls. And neither driver will themselves generate ENOMEM
> unless the CPU is running low of memory.
> 
> In my experience, the main reason for unexpected ENOMEMs *** is from
> blk_rq_map_user_iov() in block/blk_map.c called from both drivers.
> That is a particular resource shortage rather than memory in general.
> I do notice the blk_rq_map_user_iov() is/was called with GFP_KERNEL
> in bsg and GFP_ATOMIC by sg. That suggests when you call write() on
> a sg device and get ENOMEM, then wait a little (depends on your app)
> and try again.

Well, what is the reason to use GFP_ATOMIC in the first place? I am not
familiar with the code so I might be easily wrong but sg_start_req which
calls blk_rq_map_user_iov resp. blk_rq_map_user with GFP_ATOMIC uses
mutex. It is a conditional usage so the sleeping context might depend
on the caller. But I guess it would be better to double check. It looks
suspicious to me.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-03 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-02 11:35 Recent removal of bsg read/write support Dror Levin
2018-09-02 11:44 ` Richard Weinberger
2018-09-02 17:55   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-03  8:34     ` Dror Levin
2018-09-04  4:10       ` Douglas Gilbert
2018-10-04  6:58       ` Dror Levin
2018-10-05 22:35         ` Greg KH
2018-10-05 23:27           ` Douglas Gilbert
2019-02-01 17:44       ` Douglas Gilbert
2018-09-02 19:16   ` Douglas Gilbert
2018-09-03 12:28     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-09-04  3:38       ` Douglas Gilbert
2018-09-04  6:59         ` Michal Hocko

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