From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Cc: Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@linaro.org>,
Johannes Thumshirn <jthumshirn@suse.de>,
aherrmann@suse.com, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
linux-block <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mmc <linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
mgorman@suse.com, Chunyan Zhang <zhang.chunyan@linaro.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
bfq-iosched@googlegroups.com, oleksandr@natalenko.name,
Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] block: BFQ default for single queue devices
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 15:25:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181003132554.GC21043@quack2.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdaeYU+Crr75T49WftyOHqCrsyBLBPDBBsJF-RCjmAQEdw@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed 03-10-18 08:53:37, Linus Walleij wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 8:29 AM Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> > So, I do understand your need for conservativeness, but, after so much
> > evidence on single-queue devices, and so many years! :), what's the
> > point in keeping Linux worse for virtually everybody, by default?
>
> I understand if we need to ease things in as well, I don't intend this
> change for the current merge window or anything, since v4.19
> will notably have this patch:
>
> commit d5038a13eca72fb216c07eb717169092e92284f1
> Author: Johannes Thumshirn <jthumshirn@suse.de>
> Date: Wed Jul 4 10:53:56 2018 +0200
>
> scsi: core: switch to scsi-mq by default
>
> It has been more than one year since we tried to change the default from
> legacy to multi queue in SCSI with commit c279bd9e406 ("scsi: default to
> scsi-mq"). But due to issues with suspend/resume and performance problems
> it had been reverted again with commit cbe7dfa26eee ("Revert "scsi: default
> to scsi-mq"").
>
> In the meantime there have been a substantial amount of performance
> improvements and suspend/resume got fixed as well, thus we can re-enable
> scsi-mq without a significant performance penalty.
>
> Signed-off-by: Johannes Thumshirn <jthumshirn@suse.de>
> Reviewed-by: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.com>
> Reviewed-by: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
> Acked-by: John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>
> Signed-off-by: Martin K. Petersen <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
>
> I guess that patch can be a bit scary by itself. But IIUC it all went
> fine this time!
>
> But hey, if that works, that means $SUBJECT patch will enable BFQ on all
> libata devices and any SCSI that is single queue as well, not just
> "obscure" stuff like MMC/SD and UBI, and that is
> indeed a massive crowd of legacy devices. But we're talking
> v4.21 here.
>
> Johannes, you might be interested in $SUBJECT patch.
> It'd be nice to hear what SUSE people have to add, since they
> are pretty proactive in this area.
So we do have a udev rules in our distro which sets the IO scheduler based
on device parameters (rotational at least, with blk-mq we might start
considering number of queues as well, plus we have some exceptions like
virtio, loop, etc.). So the kernel default doesn't concern us too much as a
distro.
I personally would consider bfq a safer default for single-queue devices
(loop probably needs exception) but I don't feel too strongly about it.
Honza
--
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-03 13:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20181002124329.21248-1-linus.walleij@linaro.org>
[not found] ` <05fdbe23-ec01-895f-e67e-abff85c1ece2@kernel.dk>
2018-10-03 6:29 ` [PATCH] block: BFQ default for single queue devices Paolo Valente
2018-10-03 6:53 ` Linus Walleij
2018-10-03 13:25 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2018-10-04 7:45 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-10-04 8:24 ` Andreas Herrmann
2018-10-03 7:05 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2018-10-03 7:18 ` Linus Walleij
2018-10-03 7:42 ` Damien Le Moal
2018-10-03 8:28 ` Linus Walleij
2018-10-03 8:53 ` Damien Le Moal
2018-10-03 15:53 ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03 17:34 ` Bryan Gurney
2018-10-04 8:21 ` Linus Walleij
2018-10-04 9:56 ` Ulf Hansson
2018-10-03 12:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-10-03 14:58 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-03 15:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-10-03 15:15 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-05 6:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-10-03 15:52 ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03 11:49 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2018-10-03 14:51 ` Mark Brown
2018-10-03 15:55 ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03 16:00 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-03 16:04 ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-04 7:38 ` Jan Kara
2018-10-04 8:25 ` Linus Walleij
[not found] ` <CACRpkdYG2Y=rspbZ_o=H3REXTEfOcaiqEyQD4kzO=G=d63V3yA@mail.gmail.com>
2018-10-04 10:13 ` Mark Brown
2018-10-04 15:10 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-04 15:26 ` Mark Brown
2018-10-05 9:49 ` Pavel Machek
2018-10-03 15:54 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-03 16:02 ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-03 17:22 ` Paolo Valente
[not found] ` <20181004202553.71c2599c@alans-desktop>
2018-10-04 20:09 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-04 20:39 ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-04 22:42 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-05 9:16 ` Jan Kara
2018-10-06 3:12 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-06 6:46 ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-06 16:20 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-10-06 16:46 ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-05 9:28 ` Paolo Valente
2018-10-05 6:24 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2018-10-04 20:19 ` Paolo Valente
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