From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>,
Daniel Micay <danielmicay@gmail.com>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
"Tobin C. Harding" <me@tobin.cc>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
"Steven Rostedt (VMware)" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] random: Move rand_initialize() earlier
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 10:29:02 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181012142902.GD2420@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181011225421.GA21093@beast>
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 03:54:21PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> Right now rand_initialize() is run as an early_initcall(), but it only
> depends on timekeeping_init() (for mixing ktime_get_real() into the
> pools). However, the call to boot_init_stack_canary() for stack canary
> initialization runs earlier, which triggers a warning at boot:
>
> random: get_random_bytes called from start_kernel+0x357/0x548 with crng_init=0
>
> Instead, this moves rand_initialize() to after timekeeping_init(), and moves
> canary initialization here as well.
>
> Note that this warning may still remain for machines that do not have
> UEFI RNG support (which initializes the RNG pools durting setup_arch()),
> or for x86 machines without RDRAND (or booting without "random.trust=on"
> or CONFIG_RANDOM_TRUST_CPU=y).
>
> Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
This seems reasonable to me. Were you hoping to get this in for -rc8?
It looks sane, and I don't see any _obvious_ unintended consequences
of such a change, but it's rather late in the development cycle, and
it isn't regression fix.
My druthers would be wait until -rc2, as a minor low-risk improvement
that goes in after the merge window, although some people are of the
belief that -rc2 should be a strict feature freeze delimiter. My
personal opinion is no major feature changes except during the merge
window, and we go into bug-fix only mode after -rc4, and by -rc6 it's
regression and major security fixes only. (This is however not a
universally held opinion; see the "bug-introducing patches" thread
which Sasha started on the ksummit-discuss thread.)
- Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-12 14:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-11 22:54 [PATCH] random: Move rand_initialize() earlier Kees Cook
2018-10-12 8:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-10-12 14:43 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-12 14:29 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o [this message]
2018-10-12 14:45 ` Kees Cook
2019-04-16 3:46 ` Kees Cook
2019-04-16 16:09 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-04-16 23:00 ` Kees Cook
2019-04-23 22:20 ` Kees Cook
2019-04-24 22:10 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-04-24 23:14 ` Kees Cook
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