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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 2/2] Documentation/process: Add tip tree handbook
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 08:14:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181108071413.GA25195@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181108070547.GA20032@gmail.com>


* Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:

> With tail comments the code looks like this:
> 
> 	res = dostuff(); /* We explain something here. */
> 
> 	seed = 1; /* Another explanation. */
> 
> 	mod_timer(&our_object->our_timer, jiffies + OUR_INTERVAL); /* We like to talk */
> 
> 	res = check_stuff(our_object); /* We explain something here. */
> 	if (res)
> 		return -EINVAL;
> 
> 	interval = nontrivial_calculation(); /* Another explanation. */
> 
> 	mod_timer(&our_object->our_timer, jiffies + interval); /* This doesn't race, because. */
> 
> ... while with freestanding comments it's:
> 
> 	/* We explain something here: */
> 	res = check_stuff(our_object);
> 	if (res)
> 		return -EINVAL;
> 
> 	/* Another explanation: */
> 	interval = nontrivial_calculation();
> 
> 	/* This doesn't race with init_our_stuff(), because: */
> 	mod_timer(&our_object->our_timer, jiffies + interval);
> 
> This comment placement style has several advantages:
> 
>   - Comments precede actual code - while in tail comments it's exactly
>     the wrong way around.
> 
>   - We don't create over-long lines nor artificially short tail comments 
>     just because we were trying to stay within the col80 limit with the 
>     "this doesn't race" comment. The full-line comment was able to 
>     explain that the race is with init_our_stuff().
> 
>   - Freestanding oneliner comments are much better aligned as well: note 
>     how ever comment starts at the exact same column, making it very easy 
>     to read (or not to read) these comments.
> 
>   - In short: predictable visual parsing rules and proper semantic 
>     ordering of information is good, random joining of typographical 
>     elements just to create marginally more compact source code is bad.
> 
>   - Just *look* at the tail comments example: it's a visually diffuse, 
>     jumble of statements and misaligned comments with good structure.

Forgot to mention the role of punctuation:

    - Also note how punctuation actually *helps* the integration of 
      comments and code. The ":" will direct attention to the code that 
      follows, making it clear that the sentence explains the next 
      statement. There are exceptions for when different type of 
      punctuation is a better choice, for example:

	/* TODO: convert the code to our newest calc API ASAP. */
	interval = nontrivial_calculation();

      Here we don't explain the statement but document a TODO entry. 

      Also, it's frequent practice to use multi-line comments to explain 
      the next section of code, with a particular note about the first 
      statement. Proper punctuation helps there too:

	/*
	 * Establish the timeout interval and use it to set up
	 * the timer of our object. The object is going to be
	 * freed when the last reference is released.
	 *
	 * Note, the initial calculation is non-trivial, because
	 * our timeout rules have complexity A), B) and C):
	 */
	interval = nontrivial_calculation();

      Note how part of the multi-line comment describes overall 
      principles of the code to follow, while the last sentence 
      describes a noteworthy aspect of the next C statement.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-08  7:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-07 17:10 [patch 0/2] Documentation/process: Add subsystem/tree handbook Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-07 17:10 ` [patch 1/2] Documentation/process: Add maintainer handbooks section Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-07 17:10 ` [patch 2/2] Documentation/process: Add tip tree handbook Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-07 17:44   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-07 19:57     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-11-07 19:38   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-11-08  7:05   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-08  7:14     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2018-11-08  7:19   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-08  7:30   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-08  7:40   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-08  9:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-08 11:05       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-08 17:19       ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08 17:24         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-11-08 17:40         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-11-08 19:58           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-08 20:05             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-11-08 21:06             ` Greg KH
2018-11-08 21:08               ` Greg KH
2018-11-08 22:38               ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-08 20:14         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-11-08 20:22           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-08 21:04           ` Greg KH
2018-11-08 22:19             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-11-08 22:33               ` Greg KH
2018-11-08 22:56           ` Dan Williams
2018-11-08  7:46   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-08  8:04   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-08  8:13   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-08  8:18   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-08  8:30   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-07 19:48 ` [patch 0/2] Documentation/process: Add subsystem/tree handbook Jonathan Corbet
2018-11-07 19:58   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-07 20:51     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-08 14:49       ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-11-08 15:05         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-08 15:19           ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-11-08 16:05             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-11-08 16:21           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-11-08 16:32             ` Mark Brown
2018-11-08 17:32               ` Dan Williams
2018-11-13 23:15                 ` Mark Brown
2018-11-08 16:33             ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-11-08 19:46               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-11-08 15:49         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-17 15:05           ` Borislav Petkov
2020-12-17 17:53             ` Jonathan Corbet
2020-12-17 17:58               ` Borislav Petkov
2018-11-12  5:52         ` Ingo Molnar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-09-13 15:39 [PATCH 0/2] doc: Add tip maintainer's handbook Borislav Petkov
2021-09-13 15:39 ` [PATCH 2/2] Documentation/process: Add tip tree handbook Borislav Petkov

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