From: "Tobin C. Harding" <me@tobin.cc>
To: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vishal.l.verma@intel.com,
ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
Steve French <stfrench@microsoft.com>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [RFC PATCH 2/3] MAINTAINERS, Handbook: Subsystem Profile
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 10:56:51 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181115235651.GD5782@caerus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pnv6ivl7.fsf@intel.com>
On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 10:38:44AM +0200, Jani Nikula wrote:
>
> Cc: linux-doc
>
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2018, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> wrote:
> > As presented at the 2018 Linux Plumbers conference [1], the Subsystem
> > Profile is proposed as a way to reduce friction between committers and
> > maintainers and perhaps encourage conversations amongst maintainers
> > about best practice policies.
> >
> > The profile contains short answers to some of the common policy
> > questions a contributor might have, or that a maintainer might consider
> > formalizing. The current list of maintenance policies is:
> >
> > Overview: General introduction to maintaining the subsystem
> > Core: List of source files considered core
> > Leaf: List of source files that consume core functionality
> > Patches or Pull requests: Simple statement of expected submission format
> > Last -rc for new feature submissions: Expected lead time for submissions
> > Last -rc to merge features: Deadline for merge decisions
> > Non-author Ack / Review Tags Required: Patch review economics
> > Test Suite: Pass this suite before requesting inclusion
> > Resubmit Cadence: When to ping the maintainer
> > Trusted Reviewers: Help for triaging patches
> > Time Zone / Office Hours: When might a maintainer be available
> > Checkpatch / Style Cleanups: Policy on pure cleanup patches
> > Off-list review: Request for review gates
> > TODO: Potential development tasks up for grabs, or active focus areas
> >
> > The goal of the Subsystem Profile is to set expectations for
> > contributors and interim or replacement maintainers for a subsystem.
>
> First of all, I welcome documentation efforts like this.
>
> The cover letter mainly focuses on the maintainer aspect, and the
> documentation is added to the maintainer handbook. However, here you set
> the goal as setting expectations for contributors. The example nvdimm
> profile in patch 3/3 addresses the reader as a new maintainer, yet goes
> on to set expectations also for contributors, not just the maintainer.
>
> I do think the documentation for contributors and maintainers/committers
> should be kept separate. Most contributors will never care about the
> documentation for the latter. We have Documentation/process for
> contributors, and I think the audience of Documentation/maintainer
> should be strictly maintainers.
>
> In summary, I do think we need all of the documentation you propose, and
> I appreciate you taking this on, but I think this should be split by
> audience.
I got confused by this at first also Jani. This document is a template
for use by maintainers. The files created from the template (by a
subsystem maintainer) are for contributors. So I believe this document
is in the correct place.
Hope this helps to clarify.
Tobin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-11-15 23:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-15 4:53 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Maintainer Handbook: Subsystem Profile Dan Williams
2018-11-15 4:53 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] MAINTAINERS: Reclaim the P: tag for " Dan Williams
2018-11-15 5:39 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-11-15 20:12 ` Joe Perches
2018-11-15 4:53 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] MAINTAINERS, Handbook: " Dan Williams
2018-11-15 5:48 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Julia Lawall
2018-11-15 7:59 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-11-15 13:47 ` Julia Lawall
2018-11-16 12:44 ` Jani Nikula
2018-11-16 17:56 ` Joe Perches
2018-11-17 14:12 ` Rob Herring
2018-11-17 17:03 ` Julia Lawall
2018-11-20 7:28 ` Jani Nikula
2018-11-15 5:49 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-11-15 7:58 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-11-15 8:38 ` Jani Nikula
2018-11-15 18:03 ` Tim.Bird
2018-11-15 23:56 ` Tobin C. Harding [this message]
2018-11-15 15:44 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-11-16 23:28 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-11-17 11:57 ` Hans Verkuil
2018-11-16 0:11 ` Frank Rowand
2018-11-16 12:04 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-11-16 18:57 ` Dan Williams
2018-11-18 12:58 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-11-18 17:31 ` Dan Williams
2018-11-18 17:31 ` Dan Williams
2018-11-18 17:34 ` Dan Williams
2018-11-18 17:44 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-11-16 16:47 ` Frank Rowand
2018-11-15 4:53 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] libnvdimm, MAINTAINERS: " Dan Williams
2018-11-15 8:03 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-11-15 14:10 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-11-15 16:20 ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-11-15 19:09 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-11-15 19:35 ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-11-15 19:40 ` Luck, Tony
2018-11-15 19:43 ` Joe Perches
2018-11-16 11:39 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-11-18 7:12 ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-11-16 11:33 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-11-16 12:00 ` Jan Kara
2018-11-18 7:00 ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-11-16 20:36 ` Rodrigo Vivi
2018-11-16 23:44 ` Dan Williams
2018-11-17 0:38 ` NeilBrown
2018-11-18 13:11 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-11-18 13:03 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-11-20 8:10 ` Jani Nikula
2018-11-20 19:31 ` Dan Williams
2018-11-26 11:12 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-11-26 15:55 ` Joe Perches
2018-11-16 19:13 ` Dan Williams
2018-11-15 14:30 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-11-15 14:51 ` Julia Lawall
2018-11-16 19:20 ` Dan Williams
2018-11-16 2:58 ` y-goto
2018-11-17 0:32 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " David Woodhouse
2018-11-15 5:56 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] Maintainer Handbook: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-11-25 10:57 ` Pavel Machek
2018-11-25 20:55 ` Dan Williams
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